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Keynesianism, at least until the 1970s). Who ever wrote this seems to have major misconceptions, and an extreme disdain for U.S. Democrats, from a right-wing (free market) position (or at the very least, they do not seem to consider Democrats worthy of the "liberal" designation, which leads
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I made an inquiry about that, and was told that the majority of ACT Mps voted for Civil Unions, to legalise brothels and for the Right to Die Act. A minority of ACT MPs voted against, but so did a minority of Labour MPs, and that doesn't make Labour homophobic and socially conservative. There isn't a
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Work on it. Your edits were reverted 'cos you cancelled any information about the
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Thanks. As some contributors say, membership of LI is not identical with being a liberal party. In the starting of the page membership of LI is seen as an indication. But also a lot of non-members are included, as are parties member of other internationals. The
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The translation is very unclear: Liberale Staatspartij might be literally translated into Liberal State Party, but then it doesn't mean any thing, in the dutch of the time Liberale Staatspartij was meant to describe Liberal Political Party. I would like to see a common policy towards all dutch
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