2978:"Hiberno-English" book are pure Gaelic (some but not all with anglicized spellings). Thus John A Murphy can comment that nobody in Ireland speaks Hiberno-English any more (the remark is disputable, but is not self-contradicting nonsense). "Anglo-Irish" (while it has other senses as Snalwibma indicates) has been used relatedly; the first edition of the OED uses it for Hiberno-English, though the third edition appears to be using "Irish English" e.g. for "crack" (hadn't got "craic" spelling last time I checked the website). The 1960 Thomas Davis lectures (from memory) describes "Anglo-Irish" as the creole spoken by those native speakers of Irish Gaelic, who learned English in adulthood or at hedgeschools; when they reared their children through English these would speak Hiberno-English. This present article should be called "Irish English" so we can talk about Ulster English, Dortspeak, standard vs dialect, cultural cringe, breakfast radio, Americanisms, etc. Maybe there is enough material for a separate Hiberno-English article, but that's not the right name for a more general survey.
3368:: when two people speak a different dialect, such as people from north Germany and the Swiss (German speakers), there are genuine difficulties in understanding each other -- it's not just the difference in accent. Secondly, where is the evidence for this difference? I would argue that the inner city accents of Dublin, Waterford and maybe other places have similarities. Words like 'boy' and 'girl', used in Cork, are certainly not unique to Cork city, being used in almost every sentence in Waterford city.
31:
2122:
all over the
Greater NYC area including urban New Jersey and downtown Manhattan and not once did I hear anything other than "scallions". However, some people would call scallions "shallots", but then again, they probably had never seen or used the latter since they're a part of French and other cuisines but not American cooking. This last fact also holds true in Quebec where most people don't know what either a shallot or a scallion is and call both "échalote(s)". --
3160:
being "incorrect" English, they can be translated to "Rinne mé é" and "Chonaic mé é". Because of the lack of an Irish pluperfect, "Rinne mé é" means both "I did it" and "I have done it" depending on usage. It's quite simple, either a common and persistent element in spoken
English in Dublin is just "sloppy usage" or it's a variation on the lack of an Irish equivalent of the English pluperfect that exists in Hiberno-English.
2195:
the obvious exception - a couple being two people in a romantic relationship. But who knows how reliable that is? I sure don't. I'm not sure if there's a moral to this rambling story - it just struck me as very strange sounding that
American and British English both used couple to mean exactly two, when Hiberno & Canadian English mean "more than one, up to maybe four or five"
619:
spelling seems to. I'm fairly sure this standard is widely applied, so even if "crack" is accepted as an alternate spelling, shouldn't it come second? This would make the heading be Craic (crack), and a note should be added to the effect that the dominance used to be different (although this is dicussed on the page for
3186:
doesn't seem to be any reason to favour the explanation that it derives from the lack of pluperfect in Irish over the explanation that people are simply dropping the word "have" as they do in other countries. In any case, unless we can draw on a source, this would be original research and thus shouldn't be included.
881:...I suspect you're right. The variety of accents and lingo around Ireland is nothing short of insane. I was down in Kerry recently, and attempted to have a conversation with a local - both of us had quite a hard time understanding one another! I'd have found it no less effort to interpret, were he speaking Irish.
933:"Yer man" etc would often be used to indicate someone eg. on the other side of the road etc - "yer man there with the green jacket". I don't know if "whatsisname" is used in this context. Possibly in this section should also be "aul' fella" and "aul' wan"; i.e. father and mother ("how's yer aul' fella?")
2214:
I would disagree strongly that
British usage means always exactly two. Not at all. The usage of 'couple' always carries a degree of imprecision. 'A couple of beers' means at least two, but quite possibly more. Similarly "I'll be away for a couple of days", "I'll be back in a couple of minutes", "it's
2139:
Do both
American and British English really use a couple to mean exactly two? Canadian English certainly does not. "A couple" can refer to two people in a relationship, but typically "I had a couple of beer" means "I drank two or three (less likely four or five) beer". "A couple of guys just went by
2121:
Most
Americans in at least the Northeast use "scallions" as the only word for what others might refer to as "green onions", "spring onions" or even "multiplier onions". In fact, I didn't know of these other terms in the US until a few years ago; and I'm 34! Of zero Irish heritage, I grew up and lived
1254:
I've deleted the claim that
Hiberno-English doesn't appear in Ulster. That is plain daft. However, it is clear that among the significant regional differences on the island, the linguistic contribution of Scots in the northeast is one of the most important. This is clearly acknowledged in the body of
727:
I know it's rather later to contribute to this discussion, but there we are... I don't think that 'aren't I' is quite what people think - a contraction of 'are not I'. Compare shall and shan't. In the latter, the last consonant has been dropped from 'shall' and the vowel lengthened. Much the same
3389:
I regularly used the term cat in Dublin, sometimes in
English, but particularly in Bearlachas, as an abbreviation of catastrophic - which was sometimes used for emphasis. This would make it less a piece of Hiberno-English and, in fact, the exact opposite (Bearlachas) that's passed back into English.
3159:
You've got that completely arse over tit. Hiberno-English is a living language and examples from it are taken from what's actually spoken and then explained in terms of the relationship with Irish. "I done it", "I seen it" (and there's probably other examples I can't think of at the moment). Despite
2463:
I think the quoted explaination is incorrect. Actually, I'm almost certain it's incorrect. The
Carribean colonies were settled at a far later date than the plantations, and even then you have to consider the existence of a rather large English-speaking community along the east coast, stretching from
2380:
i have heard all those words bar droot, nohjis(how do you pronounce that?) tackies(is that ment to be trackies?) toddle is more of an english one i think. my dad would say pencil topper, i would say pearer(sp?) different parts of the counrty.... also americans have long had the problem with the word
2248:
It Can Mean Both, Exactly two or a small amount(2-4 maybe). Are you going for a couple of pints does not mean two. Also a Few means both
Exactly three and a small amount give us a few rasher sandwhichs(yum yum) and you will prob get 4. basically they have double meanings and you just gotta learn the
2194:
Okay, so if we take it as "a given" that a couple means two in HBritish English, can we find a source that it also means two in American English - I'm not sure how to check that. The Wiktionary claims that American English shows some flexibility on the number of things that consitute a couple, with
1981:
Also I may have missed it in the article but I didn't come across any mention of the use of "so" at the end of sentences. (This baffled an American friend.) E.g. "Bye so", "Let's go so", "That's fine so", "We'll do that so". It's difficult to say what it means; it subtly suggests that some sort of
1665:
as a recommendation for the spelling of Knowledge articles related to the European Union. Can someone please add a section on spelling to the article right after Pronunciation to address how English is spelled by Irish speakers? I can't do it meself. I'm after bein' a feckin' American lad, amn't I?.
1285:
I used to walk up to people when they said this, thinking maybe they were about to whisper something secret, but they never did. This would even be used during phone calls. I presume the meaning is pretty much 'Listen to this...', sometimes 'You won't believe this, but...'. If you've been talking
814:
The huge popularity of American (and other) T.V. shows among teens has led to a diversification and more variety in the language used. American, English and other terms now mix fluidly with Hiberno-English terms. I would venture to say that there is increased awareness and usage of other vernaculars
3363:
This seems like typical Irish parochialism to me. Dublin has to have its own accent, and a token comparison to London. Then Cork has to have an entry because Dublin has an entry. It is claimed that the Dublin "dialect" is completely different from those of other parts of the country. Firstly, there
2424:
blaguard , also blaguarding :- word from my grandparents generation used when referring to a petty criminal or just an unlikeable individual also said to children to admonish bad behaviour ( that was me ) - clearly comes from french word for practical joker -blaggard could langer be a corruption of
2204:
Taking a highly nonscientific and noncitable survey, I found that when asked "If I went to the bar and had a couple beer, how many beer did I have?" all Americans I asked (one) said "Exactly two" but all Canadians said "2 or 3" or "2 to 4". Maybe the claims about American & British English are
2159:
Not so sure I agree with you, Ryano (i.e. I disagree!). I reckon that in Ireland "a couple" often means three or four. It's certainly striking how precisely it means exactly two in England, and how much looser a concept it is in Ireland. Also, Dolan's Hiberno-English Dictionary says couple means "a
1935:
I agree - I was discussing this with a friend only yesterday... I think that in Ireland "next" is used very straightforwardly to refer to the next Wednesday (or whatever) we are going to reach, even if that is only a day or two away, whereas in Britain (and America?) "this Wednesday" may be used to
1303:
is often used at the end of sentences or phrases as a semantically empty word, completing an utterance without contributing any apparent meaning. Examples include "Bye now" (= "goodbye"), "There you go now" (= when giving someone something), "Ah now!" (= expressing dismay), "Hold on now" (= "wait a
1078:
When relating events, to "turn around and" (do s.t.) is a common idiom. It usually seems to indicate that what is about to be related is out of the ordinary, as in "He turned 'round and thumped me!". It is often used to indicate (possibly exaggerated) assertiveness on the part of the speaker, as in
2364:
Tinker, according to the aul lad, isn't derived from tin but from comes from the word tinker itself as a verb - travellers often went house to house offering their services for any odd jobs. They were people who 'tinkered' with things - hence the name. It also wasn't originally a derogatory term.
2007:
Another thing I thought about recently was the word "haims" (alternatively spelt "hames" or "haimes") meaning disaster or mess; e.g. "he made a haims of the job". Googling proves that this seems to be an exclusively Irish phase. I can't find any reference to the etymology. A "hame" is part of a
1616:
and the sound is technically described as a voiceless alveolar non-sibilant fricative (which is why the description of if being between an 's' and an 'sh' is way off the mark: they're sibilants). It's actually very, very prevalent, and has been subject of several studies and papers, mainly because
1445:
seem to think the information is irrelevant or already so well-known to merit inclusion and they may be right, but I still think a mention as small as "(also common in Scotland and the north of England)" would be useful to non-Irish or British readers - I think context is important. I also suspect
810:
Regarding the use of the "Amn't I not" double negative. I grew up in a working class Dublin area. The phrase was and is used regularly. Also, check Roddy Doyle's books (The Snapper, The Van, The Commitments) for perfect example of the uses of that and many other phrases in the early 90's. He wrote
98:
Is there any particular reason that "mitch," of all the vocabulary available, is the only example included in this artcile? I'm not familliar with the language, but perhaps it could be made clear that this is an example, as opposed to being a particularly important word, which is how it looks now.
3185:
I see what you're getting at, but I'm still skeptical about a link to Irish, especially as the usage is associated with Dublin rather than parts of the country where Irish-speaking would have been more prevalent, and the fact that it's not a usage unique to Ireland. What I'm saying is that there
1005:
Another peculiarity I've noticed in Northern English is the use of "whenever" instead of "when". In the South "whenever" implies a continuing reaction or emphasis, for instance "Whenever I went out without an umbrella, it always rained". But in the North you hear things like "The roads were safer
766:
In theory, there could be entire sections on Dublin and Cork Hiberno-English! Also some Limerick terms, "sham" (mate?), "c'mere I want ya" (in a nasal whine), "I'll bust the head/chops off ya"/"c'mere I'll bust ya", "You lookin' at me?"/"What you lookin' at". Charming Hiberno-English. I'll add it
518:
The canonical example is "Film" which is pronounced as two syllables, almost fillum. (cf. Rhythm.) In RP english this is a monosyllable, almost fiwm. The w attempts to represent a dark l sound. Also "Bottle" keeps the light l by changing the t to a sound between t and k. Irish children often
2965:
here...). I would never consider using "Anglo-Irish" to describe the language, and I don't think others do so either. To my ears (and grammatical sensibilities), "Anglo-Irish" seems to refer to a version of the Irish language, not a version of English. Come to think of it, should the words "and
2492:
Actually, a tale I've heard is that, when the freed American slaves were offered the opportunity to go to the Carribean islands, a lot of Irish went with them (preferring the sun to dreary Boston and New York). A bit of googling through up: . As for the dialects, there's definitely a similarity
1732:
Not sure about this, to be honest. Is the idea of a spelling section to document differences in spelling between Hiberno-English and British English? If so, I'm not aware of very many. The "rere" mentioned above is probably more correctly an archaism. The lists of words above are not really
1460:
I wrote this new section. Sorry it's mostly brand names and products and stuff, but I can't think of any other commonly used indigenous words (that aren't derived from Irish) at the moment. I'm sure there's more... OK, just thought of some - "washing the wear" for washing dishes, and "delph" or
850:
The above statement is highly confusing. If you are talking about changing the Word 'Irish' to 'Gaelic' in a dictionary or a wikipedia page you should note that Irish people never use the word Gaelic to refer to the language. The language is called Irish (in English at least) and i wouldn't use
618:
Why is the title on the craic/crack section given as crack (craic)? Obviously in spoken language it makes no odds, but when written down I've never seen the two spellings as interchangeable. Craic means fun but crack doesn't. I'm aware that crack always used to predominate, but nowadays the -ic
3013:
I doubt very much if it derives from Irish. It's standard usage everywhere in these isles. Besides which, the origin of the phrase seems straightforward (at least on first glance) - think of 'cross purposes' and cross winds and so on - there's a natural semantic connection with contrariness.
2977:
Disagree. "Irish English" is an established term for the English language as spoken in Ireland. "Hiberno-English" refers more specifically to those features or dialects of Irish English that reflect the influence of the Irish Language (Encyclopedia of Ireland says this). Many terms in Dolan's
1132:
It's kind of complicated. There's the fact that a large amount of Dublin's population are from elsewhere (and indeed often further than Navan, Louth, Kildare or Wicklow). And there's no one type of Dubliner. Common-speak for a Northsider from Ballymun, or someone from Tallaght will differ from
776:
I've never heard "amn't I not": admittedly most of my 8 years in Dublin was not spent in working-class areas. It sounds like a childish blunder (i.e. how the rest of the world views "amn't I"). Does this also mean "aren't you not" and "isn't it not" are found? In which case it's a separate
583:
I have removed the reference to "crack" because I believe it not to be derived from Irish ("craic", like "sessiún", is a recent gaelicisation). I think I have seen Jane Austen use "crack" in the sense of lively conversation, and there are usages like "wisecrack" in non-Hiberno English. It is,
2045:
Could the word "gurrier" (a steet urchin in Dublin idiom) come from the French "guerrier" (warrior), indicating Anglo-Norman or even Huguenot influence? Indeed, perhaps the influence of the Huguenots on Dublin idiom and accent deserves more study. (There is a Huguenot cemetery in central
1936:
refer to the nearest future Wednesday and "next Wednesday" often therefore means the one after that. So on (say) a Monday "next Wednesday" means two days hence in Ireland, but nine days hence in Britain. Am I right? If so, would anyone care to insert something like this into the article?
991:
has done this to all the "major English dialects" and is discussing it with others who don't agree on his talk page. I don't think I like it myself, after all, all these dialects are not independent languages in themselves but dialects, and so the page titles really don't sit well IMHO.
1930:
There should be a mention of the use of next/this to destinguish future points in time. I know it causes great confusion for non-Irish living in Ireland. For example: "Do you want to go this weekend or next weekend?" or "I'll see you next Wednesday not this Wednesday.".
2993:
Anybody know the etymology of this? The bird was giving out today because she was "cross with me" and it got me to thinking about my time in the States where I always had to explain myself to the poor benighted people when I described somebody as being "cross with...".
2140:
here" doesn't imply exactly two, but like 2 - 5 and in other cases it might be even more "I was doing a couple of clicks over the limit" could easily mean speeding by 10 kilometres an hour. I'm really not sure, just wanted to throw it out there and see if anyone knew
2933:
Hiberno-English is a common term applied to the form, Encyclopedia of Ireland cites it under this. Irish-English is just a bit confusing and Anglo-Irish is a somewhat outdated term generally applied to literature, society and treaties rather than a modern language.
3121:"English football manager", or working class English? Given the influence of Hiberno-English on the working class English spoken in the key cities of London, Manchester and, particularly, Liverpool, who's to say it's "sloppy" usage rather than as I outlined above?
1675:
3371:
I mean where does it all end? I'm sure Limerick and Waterford could have sections as well, being industrial centres of long standing, having a ton of local slang. And I'm sure there are towns out there with pretty odd accents and more than a few strange phrases.
1925:
1222:
Can we resolve the disagreement and remove the blatant contradiction from the entry? My two cents: As an American, I've always thought of the random pluralization of "obviously" singular nouns to be a generally British and Irish thing: "the football team
2360:
Have heard of most of those words (apart from droot, tackies and toddle) to be honest. Topper, according to an ex-teacher of mine wasn't so much a pencil parer, rather is praise for someone who's done something well - e.g. "Good man, you're a topper!"
1362:
I wouldn't disagree with that. The question for this article, though, is whether it is distinct dialect (Irish or Ulster Scots words or grammar transposed into English), or just a figure of speech that is popular in a particular area. Cheerioo nai!
1162:
Dubs also have a tendency to label anything from outside dublin as rural (or from "The Regions") even if the area is not rural, eg. Limerick/Galway city. although the article has gotten better I detected some if this prejudice in some of the previous
1309:
Is this really specifically Irish usage? I don't know how universal it is among English speakers, but we certainly have it in the United States. It's not particularly common, but it's not uncommon. Certainly I'd think nothing unusual upon hearing
1586:
A "soft T" is certainly characteristic of some accents, and increasingly heard on the TV and radio. Classic example is the pronunciation of the word "British" - often closer to "Brishish". It's something I would associate particular with the
3089:
There is another alternative to the English pluperfect that's common in Dublin City and possibly elsewhere - simply dropping the word have. Examples - "I done it" (Rinne mé é), "I seen it" (Chonaic mé é). Any objections to this being added?
1495:
Two questions: 1. Is cat generally short for catastrophic? In my experience, the latter was used (both in English and Bearlachas) to add emphasis. 2. Should kittle (citeal) be added as a common alternative to kettle straight from the Irish?
1091:
The page says that there's a neutrality dispute about this entry, but I can't see any discussion of it here. What exactly is the objection in this entry? Is it merely the text about the supposed similarity between working-class accents in
1966:
That causes no confusion for Brits - and is by no means exclusively an Irish usage. Pretty standard European English, I'd say. What is specifically Irish (I think) is "this day week" in place of "a week today". Or is that Scottish as well?
2282:
Never heard of it either. I assume you live somewhere in Ireland. I live in Dublin and here is a list of words I've never heard of, or at least not in the context it claims them in (I frequently visit other parts too; this list isn't
1548:
Does this ring any bells with anyone? "Water" is "Water" everywhere except the midlands, where it is "Waher" or even "Walker". "West" is "West" everwhere except Mayo and North County Galway, where it is "Wesht". So I don't get it?
3360:'Hiberno English' is a meaningful, real world term. 'Dublin English' and 'Cork English' are meaningless terms! There are Dublin and Cork phrases and accents, sure, but there are not separate languages or dialects in Dublin or Cork.
2055:
I think "gurrier" comes from "out on gur" meaning someone who is hiding - from school or possibly the authorities or even a parent or spouse for instance, and are existing on "gur cakes" which are fruit slices and typicaly Irish.
656:
In my experience of living with Irish expats in the last couple of years, the most stand-out Irishisms I notice are "after" as mentioned, plus "your man" to refer to any specific male person, and "the last day" to mean yesterday.
465:
According to "The Oxford Dictionary of Pronunciation for Current English" (Oxford University Press first published 2001) the American and British pronunciations are the same, except for a long vowel and of course the case of the
914:"You know who" would have a "talking behind their back" connotation. "Whatsisname/whatsername" are more accurate, as like the terms introduced, they merely are used when one doesn't know the name or can't instantly recall it.
2450:"The early English settlement of Ireland occured around the same time as England's settlement of the Carribean colonies, which partially explains why West Indian dialects share some similar phonology with Hiberno-English."
2100:-That may be true, but since "fuisce" contains the word "usice" (water) and adding the letter 'f' to the beginning of words is common in the Irish grammar it is possible that it was originally a contraction of a sentence.
718:
I remember, if I used this contraction as a child, my mother, who was ever-so-slightly Anglo (her family had only been in Ireland since the 16th century), would always correct me with the phrase "an almond is a nut". ;-)
2342:
So is it just me? This is also why I nominated it for cleanup (the comments like "(not a condom!) (Note......") I really think anything that is disputed should be removed, or cited in a way that proves COMMON usage. -
2184:
Fair enough, my observation was unscientific in any case, but I will perhaps do some field research over the next few days. Of course, as original research it won't be admissable for WikiPedia, but I'm just curious :)
1353:
Oh well - it's very ubiquitous in Ulster, and I remember local comedian Jimmy Young's TV show (which featured him doing a lot of parody charicatures of Ulster stereotypes) had a wee wumman who always went "Cheerio now"
544:
Cork English, at least with most speakers, knows no other than "light" l. Even before consonsants and at the end of words. This may be due to the lack of the light/dark L distinction in most dialects of Munster Irish.
2998:
19:47, 20 June 2006 (UTC) I don't know if Irish is the source or if the Irish version has, in fact, derived from English, but the translation of your sentence is: Bhí sí féin ag tabhairt amach inniu mar go raibh sí
902:(your one) are used in referring to an individual known by the party being addressed, but not being referred to by name. The nearest equivalents in colloquial English usage would be "whatsisname" and "whatsername".
641:. It does seem that this spelling is becoming predominant, as it helps to distinguish between the two main forms of cra(ck/ic). However, it may also mask the word's most likely origins in Scots and/or English. --
2091:," meaning the water of life. Curiously, in the dialect of Irish spoken in Connemara, County Galway, the word used for whiskey is "fuisce," indicating that the word has reentered the Irish Language via English!--
2036:
The pronunciation section is a bit vague as it stands, since most of the IPA characters will be unintelligible to all but academic readers, even if they appear properly in a web browser (this cannot be assumed!)
2762:. This dialect includes phrases such as 'What's the story, Bud?' meaning 'How are you, friend?' pronounced 'Wats de stary bud?' and 'Giddup de yaard' or 'gerrup de yaard' which means 'Get lost!' or 'I disagree.'
1733:
different spellings, more words found in Hiberno-English that are not found in British English (e.g. "aye" is not an alternative spelling of "yes", it's an alternative word for yes). I'm open for correction. --
2375:
thats right "if if and an were pots and pans the tinker would be out of bussiness. other names cream crakers or jacobs (as in jacobs cream crackers) which is part of supposed dublin rhyming slang(dont make me
1990:
1940:
2064:
This word, as used in Cork has been explained above. But in Dublin, it is not so much a rude word as a little boy's word for his penis! See the refrain of the Dublin street ballad, "The Monto": "Langaroo!
951:
While 'yer man' is sometimes used with a name, I'd say more often than not it is used without. Amanita - just to add, few culchies said to me before that aul fella/aul one can refer to husband/wife too.
1875:
Perhaps you are right. Perhaps we don't need a spelling section. The Lexicon would suffice. I have just added "delph" and "oxter". I'm a little surprised that they are not part of universal english.
2239:
The reference to 'couple may be derived from the Irish cúpla' - from my understanding is the cúpla is a word brought into Irish from English. Could anyone provide proof that it is a 'true' Irish word?
491:
Most people I know would say something very similar to the word 'fodder' with a slightly longer vowel sound. I've also heard (in Tipperary) a pronunciation somewhere between 'feh der' and 'fey der'
2395:
Removed the phrase 'of Guinness'. Both the words 'scoops' and 'jars' are used irrespective of what people drink. The only reason I can see for mentioning Guinness is to add in an Irish stereotype.
1492:
Does the lexicon section need to be so extensive? I think that the article is longer than it needs to be. I included a link to Terry Dolan's Hiberno-English Dictionary: would that not suffice?
3138:
There's no reason to translate "rinne" as "done" rather than "did", or "chonaic" as "seen" rather than "saw", so there doesn't seem to be a link between this usage and the Irish language. --
2418:
love to see discussion on this topic - heres a few points to start with apologies in advance for the inaccuracies - i'm not a linguist / philologist just a Corkman fascinated by this topic
785:
I would say "amn't I not" is fairly rare - "sure I'm not?" or "sure I amn't?" are probably more common in Dublin at least, but I'm not sure if these differ from use in the rest of the world.
2453:
I'd like to see a citation for that. I noticed it myself while talking to people from Cork (thinking they sounded vaguely Jamaican) but is there any sort of scholarly work on the matter?
1437:
Does anyone else think it's worth mentioning that this isn't just an Irish thing? I feel that mentioning its use in Scotland and the North of England would put it in its wider context.
815:
but that Hiberno-English (and specifically the Dublin regional dialect) remains as strong as ever. (see: Feckin' Book of Irish Slang by Colin Murphy & Donal O'Dea ISBN 0-86278-829-3)
609:, for instance, the word 'ród' exists. And its meaning? Bóthar/Road. Were Ród to be put on signposts as the Irish version people would go ballistic. But in that case they'd be wrong.
596:
some years ago listed its etymology as 'creach', an old word for the cattle raids/plunders back in the day when cattle and not land was calling the shots in Irish political disputes.
565:
The present tenses example is wrong. An bhfuil is just the interrogative form of ta. The example I would use is "Tá tú anois" vs "Bíonn tú gach lá" - you are now vs you be every day.
1231:
The "team" example is entirely different, as the plural comes from the fact of substituting "team" for "team members". Generally a group is referred to using plural in English here.
1266:
304:, i.e. "I fecked an apple over the wall". I haven't been able to detect any particular geographic distribution of these uses, but most people usually hold with one or the other --
2317:
Rubber - NOT its description, the comment "(not a condom!) (Note to American readers: this is standard British English too)" is just extremely innappropriate for an encycolpaedia.
3217:, for example, so I don't see that as grounds for exclusion. It's equally possible that the Hiberno-English phrasing has spread. I take your point on original research, though.
2404:
Usually, the word "jar" is used in the grammatical singular (Are yeh comin' for a jar?)--which should not obscure the fact that it should be interpreted as a plural noun.--
1878:
I'm wondering about "ou" or "who" as a pronoun. We can say "who did it" (without a question mark) meaning "he did it" or "she did it" without being specific. The article
1314:
of the phrases above and I'm entirely unfamiliar with Hiberno-English. Come to think of it, I've heard it enough in British productions, too. What English-speaking dialect
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Is this weird usage of "Come here to me" refering to "continue listening to me" or "start listening to me" Ireland only? Don't want to add it without checking...
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yeah but in Ballybumbum and similar Antrim-type locations, "water" is pronounced "watter", with "wat" rhyming with "vat", and the rhythm being like "hatter"--
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that to assume the information's already well-known is just Hiberno-Brito-Centricsm (if you'll excuse the ungainly term).
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1941:08:26, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
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575:Crack/Craic (but not cocaine)
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966:Hiberno-English language
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1752:www.irishstatutebook.ie
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3102:Rinne mé é
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956:Page move
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607:Old Irish
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435:for ass,
235:euphemism
192:Jim Regan
162:the word
135:the word
72:Archive 3
67:Archive 2
61:Archive 1
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3405:Donnacha
3392:Donnacha
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2548:, as in
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2495:Donnacha
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2473:this one
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2014:Kgaughan
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1120:Rurality
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674:Amn't I?
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288:meaning
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2576:/bɑːðɚ/
2572:/fɑːðɚ/
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2320:Tackies
2302:Jaykers
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1951:Makrina
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1373:Fat Red
1356:feline1
1339:feline1
1333:cheerio
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935:Amanita
900:Yer wan
896:Yer man
857:Gaeilge
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625:7Munkys
493:Amanita
429:Britain
402:fah der
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3049:Zidane
3034:Zidane
3001:crosta
2936:Djegan
2919:, but
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2687:/keːn/
2683:/boːt/
2666:hoarse
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2563:father
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2376:laugh)
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2329:Tinker
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2299:Hoo-er
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2259:Toddle
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2173:couple
2160:few".
2135:Couple
1852:whisky
1610:slit-t
1257:Ullans
1211:noun.
1094:Dublin
837:Oxford
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532:fillum
394:father
173:e.g. "
146:e.g. "
119:Rbreen
115:Hamlet
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3259:Ryano
3228:Ryano
3140:Ryano
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3016:garik
2808:Irish
2662:horse
2658:/oʊɹ/
2654:/ɔːɹ/
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2323:Scoop
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1856:Ryano
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1735:Ryano
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1525:Ryano
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1427:Kiand
1402:Matro
1294:"Now"
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1234:zoney
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883:Zoney
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306:Ryano
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