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It seems strange that this article makes absolutely no mention of the naval aspects of the campaign that brought Gustav Vasa to power. A key ingredient of the help that came from Lubeck was a fleet of ships. These were state of the art vessels (at a time of rapidly developing maritime technology) and
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I'll take a look; the standard version in
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I get confused when Iam comparing this english article to the one in swedish. How was Gustav Vasa taken as a prisoner bu the danish? When I read this article it seems he was taken as a prisoner in a battle, when I read the swedish that he his left over by the swedes to the danish as a hostage. Can
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And you know this from ??? Stupidity , Serge ! For instance
Charles XII died with no children, his sister became Queen and Monarch, but gave the title away to her husband. Later Russia chose a new bloodline, extinguished after Charles XIII. All we know of Jean-Pierre Bernadotte, is that he was a
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I removed the Old Norse version, it's not relevant. Not sure what you mean with the reference to Birger Brosa and "other
Swedish kings of the period". Birger Brosa and Gustav Vasa belong to two entirely separate periods, about 350 years between them. Surely you wouldn't argue that Olof Palme and
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Blekinge in July/August 1543. Moving through the woods on crutches, btw, would have been almost undoable in those days; back then we're talking of very rough forests with boulders, fallen over trees, many lakes and streams and few proper paths (they have been a bit cleared since).
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A useful summary of the history, from a naval point of view, is in the historical preamble to a paper on the investigation of the wreck of one of the ships in this navy This and other sources may be useful in righting the deficit.
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Adams, Jonathan; Rönnby, Johan (March 2013). "One of His
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Don't think this will be an issue, as he's known as "Gustav
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Gustaf II Adolf belong to the same period?? The time between them is about the same... Old Norse was still in use when Birger Brosa was alive, not so when Gustav Vasa lived.
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This is nonsense. Gustav Wasa never used Old Norse. Birger Brosa and Gustav Wasa belong to two very different periodes - Elizabeth I and William the Conqueror...
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