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I'm just a good Samaritan going around randomly and helping out articles and have done so. Feel free to ping me back if the OP would like further assistance or if the reviewer would like to respond to my comments. I did some basic things and will leave the more technical stuff to the OP. Feel free to
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Ok, I'm done with my review and will be putting this on hold. I'm concerned by the close paraphrasing detected: could you go back through the Ukrainian sources as well and make sure that there isn't much close paraphrasing present? The problems with close paraphrasing and verifiability should be
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I think there needs to be some judicious trimming in §Family. There seems to be quite a lot of excess information: for example, why do we need to know about Aleksey Alchevsky's birth, suicide and monument, Khrystyna Alchevska's awards, and the professions of all the Alchevsky children? Even the
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Thanks for cutting that: I get your point about Tchaikovsky, but his article is eight times bigger so more space can be spared for family details without it being undue. Regardless, I'm happy with the overall state of the article now and will pass it. Congratulations! All the best,
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I've amended the paraphrasing where it was a bit close to the original, and sorted the citation needed tag. I'll now start on the issues and do a second check on the paraphrasing later, as a second editor has already started to look at your comments.
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I'll take this one, always happy to review a classical article. I should have the review completed in a couple of days. Please respond to comments by indenting below and initialing. Looking forward to working with you! All the best,
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A late Romantic movement composer, Alchevsky wrote a symphonic poem, Alyosha Popovych, but his most popular works were romances and arrangements of folk songs, which perpetuated the use of Ukrainian folk music into the 20th
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Sorted. Interestingly the anecdote is correct. Schonberg has however confused the brothers (Ivan was an opera singer and never tried to compose a symphony). This source can be replaced with another (
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I'm still seeing some unnecessary parts in my view. The extended information about Gregory's parents beyond profession can presumably be easily found in their articles - S
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I'm still seeing some unnecessary parts in my view. The extended information about Gregory's parents beyond profession can presumably be easily found in their articles
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Ref 17 (Schonberg 1988): verification fail as above, seems to be talking about Ivan. Additionally there is way too close paraphrasing here, see below - S -
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Done. Probably more has been cut that I feel comfortable with, as imo many readers would find the information now removed about his parents informative (see
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I'm seeing a mixture of smart and straight apostrophes/quote marks. Please make all apostrophes and quote marks their straight equivalent (' and ") - S
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is this the full name of the festival? If the second part is the name of that year's festival, it should be in commas or the like - S
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On one occasion Goldenweiser and Alchevsky visited Rachmaninoff, who was interested in knowing what they were composing
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sounds a bit odd. Maybe just Ukrainian since the next sentence clarifies that he was born during the Russian Empire - S
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Let me know if any are omitted, that's the only reason I marked it partially, if not, then it should be resolved -
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The symphonic poem Alyosha Popovych was first performed in 1904 in Kharkiv, when it was conducted by Ilya Slatin
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information on Ivan, which is kind of relevant, is much too detailed for an article his brother - S -
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just a follow-up on scope before I feel prepared to pass this. I've struck everything I'm happy with.
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When the above is done, the first sentence should be part of the second paragraph in my opinion - S
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verification fail, I can't see anything to do with Gregory, as the passage is to do with Ivan - S
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including younger brother Ivan Alchevsky , who became an internationally famous opera singer
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for an example of an article that provides quite a lot of information about parents etc.) AM
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Further reading should be removed by the same logic of the comments in section below - S
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where he studied counterpoint and composition with Sergei Taneyev, and instrumentation
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Covers all major aspects of early life, education, career, works, and recognition - S
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Caveat of not being familiar with Ukrainian sources, but reliability seems fine - S
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Thanks for your review comments, Schminnte. These are now (hopefully) all sorted.
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When Alchevsky showed Rachmaninoff the sketches of first movement of his symphony
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Could an efn be used to store the rather long alternative naming information? - S
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Faculty of Physics and Mathematics of Kharkiv University in 1887, and went on
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seems to be a better preserved image, thoughts on using that instead? - S
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There is an outstanding citation needed tag in §Compositions - S
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Sorted (text removed as nothing found after a long search). AM
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He then sat at the piano and played an exposition from memory
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Additionally, there seems to be a citation error to fix now.
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b: verification pass, rest of information is SKYISBLUE - S
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