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This is a very, very wild claim. Perhaps it's just a terrible misarticulation and means "first FF sequel" (in which case it is redundant but less unfounded), I don't know. I have zero doubt that it is incorrect because it is so vague. There are so many prior video game sequels which meet the above
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