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Evergreen's claims and approaches are correct. It also shows the bias of a currently practicing member of the LDS church in terms of vocabulary. This is something a lot of Mormon articles suffer from. Example: use of "the Church," instead of
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Evergreen does. How about some mention to the fact that most reputable medical associations feel that repairitive therapy as possably doing more harm then good. The fact that the article claims that evergreen does not perform
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Evergreen does not presently advocate reparative therapy, and just include a section relating Evergreen's history of reparative therapy. Such an article would contain first-hand accounts of induced vomiting as a form of 'aversion therapy', (severe genital
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For better neutrality, phrases like, "Evergreen says that people can be successful at diminishing . . ." should be rewritten "Evergreen claims that . . ." and so on. In general, the article reads like a pamphlet used to convince a potential client to join up. The introduction area should contain
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basic facts, not alleged proof of effectiveness. Also, considering that the evidences offered here for
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