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nothing to do with that. My personal issue is the elitist attitude which is not suitable for wikipedia. I like how you labeled this "stupid wikipedians". Calm down, this is the internet. My basis for you not being open minded is saying that 70% quote. A year of editing still is no foundation for such a figure. Also, I took what you said to heart about citing wikipedia, and am not going to add the section. I do not know why you insist on blasting me. Thanks for the time. --
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page,as you said, is not a valid source. However, I suggest you read the article in its entirety. Also, do not insult my reading comprehension, as you know nothing of my intelligence, nor do I know any of yours. All I ask is that you do not turn this into a flame game, and bring up valid points. You did point out
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reliable source, and that's a conservative estimate. There's barely anyone who ever badmouths EM and most of those who do have a clear prejudice against the site that's usually the result of a rejected review or getting banned from there, in my experience. If Uncle Wiki's disastrous policies were altered to recognize EM's reliability as a source, every single metal article on
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Equally, use of MA as a reliable source for other articles should still be frowned upon. There are plenty of 'mainstream' sources dealing with underground metal in the form of commercialy published magazines. Material sufficiently underground to not be covered by
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appeal to both sides). In fact, Sunn O))) describe themselves as "power ambient" rather than metal. Most drone bands are indeed rejected if they do not have pronounced doom metal influence. Many Maciej Koper projects, such as V12140, dronehouse, and Life Curse have been deleted or rejected for just that reason. It's not up on the official rules section of the site, but it is a rule. I definitely think this should be added.
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concept of websites with information maintained by an editorial staff. Metal
Archives, as far as band genres go, fits this definition, because while bands are user-submitted, all must be checked and approved by the staff of the site first. Given this, why can band genres not be cited from MA? As per other enquiries I've made like this, I'm not outright challenging (at least not yet), just asking for information/feedback.
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Knowledge in a serious article, eyebrows would be quite justifiably raised. Whoever commented that sources commonly accepted as 'legitimate' can often be horribly wrong is absolutely correct, and that is why sources closer to their subject matter should ideally be found, i.e. if you want a source stating Band X is 'technical death metal' or whatever, I'm going to use the
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1265:(just trying to show it is not a biased link). Just read the page and you will see the controversy. I am not going to add it again til you respond, but would you like to help me create this section? The point of it is not to show my personal preference of the archives, but rather their connection with Knowledge.--
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Well, seeing as the site has been down for 4 days so far and the MA admins do check this page (at least every now and then), I'm sure they're planning some sort of a suprise. If the site had actually shut down, they probably would have explained here on
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I invite everyone to look at that picture. It is what the metalcore section of the LoG talkpage looked like as of five minutes ago. This is the section that he linked to as a source in the MA article. One mention of metal-archives.com, and it was not in a negative light whatsoever (merely pointing
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Any site which honestly believes that metalcore isn't a metal subgenre... probably isn't a reliable source. Generally, I don't mind
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Ok here is an example. Let's say you want to look up Nile. You look them up on MA, you see a little bit on them and a discography. You look them up on
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I'm not sure how the work here surpasses the work in MA. Could you show me an example, comparing the information from MA and
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Under "History" - "The Encyclopaedia Metallum was founded in July 2002 by two Canadians from Montreal using the pseudonyms HellBlazer and Morrigan. They have been interviewed three times about their site. The first interview was given to the now defunct MetalGospel.com site. The second interview was
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I base the 70% figure on a year's worth of editing experience on Knowledge. The amount of people I have seen look at Metal Archives in an unfavourable manner can be counted on two hands. I would need seven limbs to count the number of Wikipedians who hold MA in some favour. There is no widespread
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And you are far from having an accurate view of reliable sources. I linked you the emnity, you just chose not to pay attention. Like I said, I would not add this if I had not seen emnity. You are throwing random numbers out there as if you "are the metal authority". Please leave this to me and Twsx,
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Your link to the Lamb of God talk page reveals that you are the only person there arguing against using EM as a source in the matter, this hardly constitutes a wide-spread controversy or criticism and is certainly not enough of a dispute to dedicate an entire criticism section to in EM's article. I
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A quick question/point to make. As a regular user of both metal-archives and wikipedia, I've considered the question of MA's use as a source before. I always assumed it wasn't because it has no published format. However, someone recently drew my attention to the fact that wikipedia also includes the
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Yes, but drone bands are typically rejected, as many err on the side of ambient than doom. In fact, most, if not all drone bands consider themselves as part of the experimental scene, and distance themselves from metal (though sometimes embrace black metal, though of course black metal has crossover
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What enmity? There's none whatsoever. There's a general disregard for the reliability of Uncle Wiki's metal articles in the metal community as a whole (and rightfully so) which means people on EM are going to show this as well, but easily 70% of the users editing metal articles here consider EM a
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Sorry for the misunderstanding, but that was the correct link. That discussion page contains a dispute over the genre of Lamb of God, where many people blame the Encyclopaedia Metallum for misrepresenting the band. Now in my opinion, the archives were right on this one, but that is beside the point
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As it happens I do find metal Archives an incredibly useful and reliable resource, largely when it comes to discographies and the like. However, as it is user edited it cannot be used as a source for Knowledge. In fact it should be looked on in the same light as Knowledge itself... if someone cited
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The metal archives are an unprofessional joke. The administrators themselves are rude and extremely biased. They lord metal over other genres, and constantly make fun of "mallcore" and the like. While I listen to metal myself, such a site is no more than a fan boy playground and should not be taken
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EM's info is based on user contributions, and not professional contributions. Rather than trying to be lazy, perhaps the EM lovers here can get off their arse and find infinitely better, and more reliable sources. Discographies can be sourced using official websites, and genre is merely the opinion
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Haha you are not reading the right quote. I am speaking of the metalcore quote. Read it again. You are not open minded at all. You just said "70%" of the metal community views them as valid. Where is your source? Where do you get this knowledge. I am not going to add the section again, as the talk
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No, I paid perfectly close attention. You have not. All mentions of MA on the LoG talkpage are in a positive light except for yours. My mind may not be as open as yours, but it is apparently more capable of reading comprehension than yours. Also, please note that using Knowledge as a source is
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That just shows me that you did not read well enough. Although I do edit the Lamb of God page, my edits have nothing to do with EM. I only noticed the EM reference made by another use in the discussion and decided to check the site out. After I did that I figured that someone should probably add a
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00:23, 11 November 2007 (UTC) pertaining to this issue when I can show the issue itself. Forgive me if I misunderstand you, but it seems you just do not like my writing. I understand my first post was not acceptable, and I thank you for pointing that out, but now you are just deliberately removing
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This page is under attack by vandals intentionally deleting information. I keep trying to add information about MA's recent policy changes regarding Metalcore and vandals keep reverting it. I'm not sure if they have an agenda or a just nihilists trying to deny information, but if you are reading
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I am removing the note about the number of interviews done as it has proven to be incorrect, no clear number of interviews done is certain, and others involved with running the site have also done interviews regarding it - I don't know any certain numbers of interviews that have been given, but
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Also, wikipedia is not a good indicator of the metal community as a whole. I am assuming you work on the metal pages? If so, you must be aware of the widespread animosity towards wikipedia on the issue. The metal community itself can hardly be taken "as whole", as it is so incredibly diverse. I
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I never claimed it was "widespread". I just saw a post like that and a couple of others so I figured it was worth mentioning. If you read at the bottom of that post, it says he hates the term metalcore, and he blames LoG being labeled as such on EM. I took it as negative. My issues with EM have
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You appear to have missed any concerns raised. Nothing has been solved and has been pointed out previously, Alexa ratings mean precisely fuck all. I believe that it is an incredibly useful site but without the relevant reliable sources, the site has no place here. The Afd has not changed this.
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Underground metal sure, but significantly less information. If you want an easy instance of unprofessional, elitist behavior, read the trivia right here. You don't think that the whole "dursted" thing is not in any way derogatory? That site takes the typical "counter-culture" ideals of many
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Yeah, definetly down. Last I ever saw it up and running was Christmas day at about 6 PM Eastern Standard Time in the USA. I then left the board, only to come back to it a couple of days later and it was down. My guess is that they are redesigning the site. Anybody know anything?
1872:. Looking down that list you will notice a number of A-Z books published by Cherry Red; this material is in fact from the Rockdetector site, and being commercially published independently of the site becomes about as reliable a source as can be asked for on Knowledge. See
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The citation is proved within Knowledge, I can cite it if you like. I just did not have the time at that moment. Please point out the "weasel words". I am involved with the WikiProject and believe this needs to be added. Please do not remove, just ask for citation. Thank
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Nope. The website, while perhaps expansive, doesn't (in many editors' minds) meet the guidelines for notability. That is to say, it may not be important enough to include. There are reasonably specific guidelines that determine this sort of thing. You can read about it
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could you use this space to let us know why the section on fake info needs to be in this article? We may be able to help sort out which sources are usable. To be clear, I do not support inclusion of your new content if it's not cited to reliable, secondary sources.
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I see this article is proposed for deletion... Why? My case: I was interested about the origins of the website, I decided to use the best source of information: wikipedia, I searched for the website, found the article, read it, and was happily informed.
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Why shouldn't there be such a section? What if MA uses unverified information on its website and spreads lies about bands? Why is the band's official Facebook page not a reliable source? What then is a reliable source if a band complains about MA?
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The attempt to delete this article was created in a fit of rage by the editors of this site when they found out that alexa ranks ma higher than their other favorite musical misinformation sites. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! Metal-Archives :
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Sigh, this will come down to another argument of tone. Forget it, it is not even worth it. If you cannot tell what an author intends by their tone, or how they are trying to reach their audience, then this debate is pointless. Have a good day.
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section here about the enmity that exists between users here and there. If you wish, I will drop it, but I would like you to read the whole thing first. However, I still do plan to add addition complaints to this article from outside sources.
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given to the Finnish magazine Miasma during May and June 2005, and the issue was published in mid-October of the year. The last to date was given to the Québécois magazine Arsenic during December 2007, which was published in June 2008."
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critics on metal who are also reliable. Please enlighten me. As for the discography, it's a well known fact that many bands do not have an official website, and among those that do, lots of them are incomplete.] 02:13, 11 October 2007
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metalheads and puts it in writing. I never said it isn't useful, I am just saying that the work many of us have put into the WikiProject Metal surpasses that, and it irks me to see people trying to cite the archives on every page. --
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This information about only giving three interviews is incorrect. I have not kept track of all of them, but more than three, or four as suggested by the info I provide, have been done and this information is inaccurate.
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care about subgenres), but it has some serious issues (like, as I said, writing off the majority of -core). Also, fan-edited, which immediately rules it out (though it probably is acceptable as an external link).
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NOTE: The information I am trying to add has been verified by the OWNERS OF THE SITE ITSELF. So it can in no way shape or form be considered vandalism as the vandals themselves have been accusing me of.
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Since M-A admins/mods have been active in the discussion page, would it be ok to perhaps add the site's logo to this page at whatever permission level you want (perhaps for this article only)?
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Since this is the criticism section, I have aquestion to ask: how come this site is so out-of-date with some of the bands? They have info that looks like hasn't been updated in over a year.
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Ambient bands are on the site because of their "admittedly arbitrary fashion" decision to include them as those bands are "part of the metal scene". That's in this very wiki page, moron.
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There is a notification on www.metal-archives.com that the site is currently worked on, therefore the text in the article should be changed accordingly. The current state is incorrect.
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Removed the recently added section. While i do agree with the author to a certain extent (see the last comment in the paragraph right above this one) the section contained only pure
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As far as Uncle Wiki is concerned, no. But you won't find a more reliable source on metal anywhere, just don't use it as a source for Wiki (or at least have other sources as well).
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