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179: 158: 189: 74: 53: 382:(you may need to click on part 3)). As 76.113.56.30 points out, a state or province implies full-time legislation, often with its own code of laws, and responsibility for a wide range of public services, including all aspects of transport, universities, hospitals, setting its own tax levels, its own police force etc. County Municipalities are merely a small administration, often with a single full-time politician and a small portfolio. 84: 22: 604:
The article lists Sarpsborg as the prefecture of Østfold. I wonder if this is an incorrect use of the term, as the "Fylkesmann" -- i.e. the "governor" appointed by the national government -- is in fact seated in Moss. It is my understanding that the term "prefect" refers to this type of governorship
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into the county article as well? The county article is concerned with the definition of counties, their history and both political bodies, as well as historic political bodies that ruled prior to the current system. The county municipality and county governor articles go more into dept of the two
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The official term is "fylkeskommune", i.e. a broader type of a "kommune". One level below the "fylkeskommune" you will find "bykommune" (city) and "landkommune" (municipality not granted city status). This is similar to the independent cities found in Virginia but dissimilar to most other U.S.
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states, where the cities are located within counties. Therefore, using the term "county" in reference to a Norwegian "fylke" is still the best translation. And as a side note, the Norwegian "fylker" do not have anywhere near the political autonomy of a U.S. state or a Canadian province.
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In France, Italy, Spain, Austria-Hungary, etc., similar divisions existed, all based upon the direct translations of the nobleman who ruled the territory, the count (from Latin Comitatus, variations in Romance languages such as ComtĂŠ, Contado, or the Hungarian Komitat (Gespanschaft).
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I removed a paragraph with some genealogy information, and a reference to a city that doesn't exist. Feel free to revert, but please leave a note here explaining the relevance of the paragraph, and some referenced information about "The city of Gulla".
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Wouldn't it really be better to refer to the Norwegian fylker as provinces? County is a very specific term, connected to the British Isles and the US, and it might be confusing for readers who are not native speakers of English.
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As stated clearly in the respective articles in English and German about counties in English-speaking world, a 'county' is an administrative division lead by a nobleman entitled a count, hence the name.
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Is there any interest to start up a project, in order to provide a template, for the Norwegian counties? There are projects already for Sweden and Finland which could be used as a basis for this:
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This article has a flawed premise. "Amt" is to be translated as "province", since shire is already another Norwegian term ("herred") and hence cannot be used.
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Thus the German translation correctly reads 'Grafschaft'. There is the corresponding term 'Grevskap' in Norwegian, which is however by no means a county.
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and not an elected local government. It seems that either the list should be headlined as "county seat" or the entry changed to Moss.
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In the official Norwegian numbering of counties, the number 13 is not included. The numbering goes from 01
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that really serves little purpose alone. The articles should really be merged. -- 10:54, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)
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The numbered list in the table doesn't match the numbering on the map (the table *doesn't* omit 13).
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I would have said the best solution is to list both, and have a footnote state why there are two.
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There is a very distinct difference between a county and a county municipality. A county (
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THE SAME IS THE CASE IN ICELAND AND DENMARK: These articles need to be fixed.
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Removing irrelevant genealogy information, and reference to nonexistant city
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I went ahead and made a change to this effect. Hope I got it right.
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Sure, following the offical numbering is a very good idea. See also
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I have installed a modified map with the official numbering. --
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