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Well, the Cadereyta Jiménez massacre is technically just a follow up of the recent massacres between Los Zetas and the Sinaloa-Gulf cartels. Basically, one cartel does a killing to send a message, then the other one does the same too. That's why I included them in the article. Not to mention that the
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article. The 'Aftermath' section, along with the 'Reactions' if those killed end up being migrants from Central and South America, will most likely have Spanish sources to it. The details of the 'Investigations' section will most likely be in Spanish too. Sorry for the inconvenience. If you guys are
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I'd say both. It all happened because the massacre was planned out by Los Zetas with the sole purpose of blaming the Gulf cartel. And it makes sense, because it would seem very unlikely for Los Zetas to dump so many bodies on their own turf (Nuevo León state). Either way, it's funny to see how Los
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Perhaps. I couldn't find a sufficiently representative or remarkable picture for the Cadereyta Jiménez massacre, but I guess the point of the Nuevo Laredo massacre was out to grab the other gangs' attention, not to mention the public's. The scene of a body hanging from each notch on the railing on
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was most likely the perpetrator of the massacre, not Los Zetas. This information has not been officially confirmed by the authorities, but they are aware that the 8 Gulf Cartel members captured on 17 May 2012 near Cadereyta may have been involved in the massacre. Here are all the links in Spanish
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I seek clarification on the term "mass graves" used in the 'Arrests' subsection of the article. The text, and the use of this term, have me a little confused because it seems to imply graves/sites each with many corpses buried inside. But I seem to understand from the text that, five bodies were
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Sure, we could do that too. I just don't want for important information to be left out, that's all. That was my main reason for doing the past incidents section. It's hard for me to see exactly how you're picturing it, so I'll give you the honors to make the changes yourself. Thanks.
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I suggest you write the context of these massacres. It is OK if it was only a list, but the reader needs an explantion/context of what is happening. I mean, puting these attacks on perspective is more useful than listing news reeports. Just a suggestion, Cheers,
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I fail to see any direct relevance of this massacre to the ones listed in the 'past incidents' section, and I suggest that the contents of this section be ejected to another article, perhaps entitled '2011-12 episodes in the Mexican drug war'.
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I know. There aren't any suitable images to put here. That's why I made sure to buy the two newspapers to at least have some visual images. But I really hope they are eligible and are able to stay.
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I think the picture you uploaded is a lot better. But do you think we should write more on the description? It might get deleted for trivial reasons or for no reason at all.
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https://web.archive.org/web/20120526100358/http://www.insightcrime.org/insight-latest-news/item/2650-mexico-arrests-8-gulf-cartel-members-over-nuevo-leon-massacre
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I think it would sit better as background information. Just thinking out loud, how about summarising the whole section and moving it into the background? --
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I just added some info explaining how the past incidents were responses done by the cartels. Thanks for point that out. Let me know if anything comes up.
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about the new information. I'll take care of it as soon as the authorities confirm the information. It won't be long for them to make it official.
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concerned with anything, shoot me a message at my talk page. I'll be more than glad to show the exact portions of where I got my info. Thank you.
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Yes, it's the place exact ranch where the bodies were found. I guess it isn't really that important since we already mentioned China, NL.
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It's a shame there aren't any suitable images to use. I'm not an expert, but I believe that covers of newspapers cannot be exploited as
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I'd suggest creating some maps of various levels of detail pinpointing the location of the towns and where the bodies were dumped. --
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I think you did a good clean up. Go ahead and jump into any moves you feel are necessary in this article. Stay in touch. Thank you!
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And what is the relevance of "the ranch known as La Gloria" to this story? Is it the place where the mass graves were found? --
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found, each buried in a separate grave. If this is made clear, I can then perform further copyediting on the article. --
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This article sums up the situation pretty well. Basically, no one knows who carried out the massacre.
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Yep, thanks for taking the trouble to do that. You may have noticed that I have found
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Interesting. So where's the confusion coming from, the police or the press? --
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from which it was cited. It is of great importance to avoid the practice of
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newspapers talk about the 'past incidents' when reporting on this one too.
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Turns out that Los Zetas were the actual perpetrators. Here we go again.
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You have it right. The five bodies were buried in separate graves.
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