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Morris's drums seemed to circle the rim of a crater." According to music critic Jon Savage, "Joy Division were not punk but they were directly inspired by its energy". In 1994 Sumner said the band's characteristic sound "came out naturally: I'm more rhythm and chords, and Hooky was melody. He used to play high lead bass because I liked my guitar to sound distorted, and the amplifier I had would only work when it was at full volume. When Hooky played low, he couldn't hear himself. Steve has his own style which is different to other drummers. To me, a drummer in the band is the clock, but Steve wouldn't be the clock, because he's passive: he would follow the rhythm of the band, which gave us our own edge." By

525:; Wilson responded that Joy Division would be the next band he would showcase on TV. Gretton, the venue's resident DJ, was so impressed by the band's performance that he convinced them to take him on as their manager. Gretton, whose "dogged determination" was later credited for much of the band's public success, contributed the business skills to provide Joy Division with a better foundation for creativity. Joy Division spent the first week of May 1978 recording at Manchester's Arrow Studios. The band were unhappy with the Grapevine Records head John Anderson's insistence on adding synthesiser into the mix to soften the sound, and asked to be dropped from the contract with RCA. 397:. Both were inspired by the Pistols' performance. Sumner said that he felt the Pistols "destroyed the myth of being a pop star, of a musician being some kind of god that you had to worship". The following day Hook borrowed £35 from his mother to buy a bass guitar. They formed a band with Terry Mason, who had also attended the gig; Sumner bought a guitar, and Mason a drum kit. After their schoolfriend Martin Gresty declined an invitation to join as vocalist after getting a job at a factory, the band placed an advertisement for a vocalist in the Manchester 4031: 4016: 242: 966:

group's records. Hannett said, " were a gift to a producer, because they didn't have a clue. They didn't argue". Hannett demanded clean and clear "sound separation" not only for individual instruments, but even for individual pieces of Morris's drumkit. Morris recalled, "Typically on tracks he considered to be potential singles, he'd get me to play each drum on its own to avoid any bleed-through of sound". Music journalist

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thinking, 'Oh my God, I missed this one'. Because I'd look at Ian's lyrics and think how clever he was putting himself in the position of someone else. I never believed he was writing about himself. Looking back, how could I have been so bleedin' stupid? Of course he was writing about himself. But I didn't go in and grab him and ask, 'What's up?' I have to live with that".

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The group did not typically interact with the audience during concerts. According to Paul Morley, "During a Joy Division set, outside of the songs, you'll be lucky to hear more than two or three words. Hello and goodbye. No introductions, no promotion." Curtis would often perform what became known as

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Joy Division were scheduled to commence their first US/Canada tour in May 1980. Curtis had expressed enthusiasm about the tour, but his relationship with his wife, Deborah, was under strain; Deborah was excluded from the band's inner circle and objected to Curtis being close to Belgian journalist and

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that followed in the wake of Joy Division and Siouxsie and the Banshees. Standard musical fixtures of early gothic rock bands included "high-pitched post-Joy Division basslines usurp the melodic role" and "vocals that were either near operatic and Teutonic or deep, droning alloys of Jim Morrison and

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Curtis' diagnosis made live performances difficult for the band. Sumner later reflected in 2007, "We didn't have flashing lights, but sometimes a particular drum beat would do something to him. He'd go off in a trance for a bit, then he'd lose it and have an epileptic fit. We'd have to stop the show

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Sumner largely acted as the band's director, a role he continued in New Order. While Sumner was the group's primary guitarist, Curtis played the instrument on a few recorded songs and during a few shows. Curtis hated playing guitar, but the band insisted he do so. Sumner said, "He played in quite a

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by Ian Wood brought them immediate national exposure. Mason became the band's manager and Tabac was replaced on drums in June 1977 by Steve Brotherdale, who also played in the punk band the Panik. Brotherdale tried to get Curtis to leave the band and join the Panik, and even had Curtis audition. On

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Producer Martin Hannett "dedicated himself to capturing and intensifying Joy Division's eerie spatiality". Hannett believed punk rock was sonically conservative because of its refusal to use studio technology to create sonic space. The producer instead aimed to create a more expansive sound on the

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The band's dark and gloomy sound, which Martin Hannett described in 1979 as "dancing music with Gothic overtones", presaged in part the gothic rock genre. While the term "gothic" originally described a "doomy atmosphere" in music of the late 1970s, the term was soon applied to specific bands like

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his "'dead fly' dance", as if imitating a seizure; his arms would "start flying in semicircular, hypnotic curve". Simon Reynolds noted that Curtis's dancing style was reminiscent of an epileptic seizure, and that he was dancing in the manner for some months before he was diagnosed with epilepsy.

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did many who were close to the singer realise "is intentions and feelings were all there within the lyrics". The surviving members regret not seeing the warning signs in Curtis's lyrics. Morris said that "it was only after Ian died that we sat down and listened to the lyrics...you'd find yourself

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observed how the band's originality only "really became apparent as the songs got slower", and their music took on a "sparse" quality. According to Reynolds, "Hook's bass carried the melody, Bernard Sumner's guitar left gaps rather than filling up the group's sound with dense riffage and Steve

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A lack of sleep and long hours destabilised Curtis's epilepsy, and his seizures became almost uncontrollable. He often had seizures during performances, which some audience members believed were part of the performance. The seizures left him feeling ashamed and depressed, and the band became

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New Order's debut single, "Ceremony" (1981), was formed from the last two songs written with Curtis. New Order struggled in their early years to escape the shadow of Joy Division, but went on to achieve far greater commercial success with a different, more upbeat and dance-orientated sound.

1046:, "We haven't got a message really; the lyrics are open to interpretation. They're multidimensional. You can read into them what you like." The other Joy Division members have said that at the time, they paid little attention to the contents of Curtis's lyrics. In a 1987 interview with 1256:(2002) is a fictionalised account of Factory Records in which members of the band appear as supporting characters. Tony Wilson said of the film, "It's all true, it's all not true. It's not a fucking documentary," and that he favoured the "myth" over the truth. The 2007 film 831:

The suicide shocked the band and their management. In 2005, Wilson said: "I think all of us made the mistake of not thinking his suicide was going to happen ... We all completely underestimated the danger. We didn't take it seriously. That's how stupid we were."

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singing on the first few songs. When Topping came back towards the end of the set, some audience members threw bottles at the stage. Curtis's ill health led to the cancellation of several other gigs that April. Joy Division's final live performance was held at the

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would be looking nervously at the stage and you could see what was going through their minds ... for something was happening within a set, doing what he did, that actually took him to that point, that actually overcame the drugs and made him have the attack."

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Morris said that even without Curtis's death, it is unlikely that Joy Division would have endured. The members had made a pact long before Curtis's death that, should any member leave, the remaining members would change the band name. The band re-formed as

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said Curtis's suicide "made for instant myth". Jon Savage's obituary said that "now no one will remember what his work with Joy Division was like when he was alive; it will be perceived as tragic rather than courageous". In June 1980, Joy Division's single

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was released in June and sold through its initial pressing of 10,000 copies. Wilson said the success turned the indie label into a true business and a "revolutionary force" that operated outside of the major record label system. Reviewing the album for

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review, Chris Brazier said that it "has the familiar rough-hewn nature of home-produced records, but they're no mere drone-vendors—there are a lot of good ideas here, and they could be a very interesting band by now, seven months on". The packaging of

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Jon Savage wrote that "Curtis's great lyrical achievement was to capture the underlying reality of a society in turmoil, and to make it both universal and personal," while noting that "the lyrics reflected, in mood and approach, his interest in

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home to talk to Deborah. He asked her to drop an impending divorce suit, and asked her to leave him alone in the house until he caught a train to Manchester the following morning. Early on 18 May 1980, having spent the night watching the

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significantly altered their live sound, a fact that greatly displeased the band at the time; however, in 2006, Hook said that in retrospect Hannett had done a good job and "created the Joy Division sound". The album cover was designed by

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Joy Division took time to develop their style and quickly evolved from their punk roots. Their sound during their early inception as Warsaw was described as fairly generic and "undistinguished punk-inflected hard-rock". Critic

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Joy Division toured Europe in January 1980. Although the schedule was demanding, Curtis experienced only two grand mal seizures, both in the final two months of the tour. That March, the band recorded their second album,

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In contrast to the relatively polished sound of their studio recordings, Joy Division typically played loudly and aggressively during live performances. The band were especially unhappy with Hannett's mix of

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Curtis was the band's sole lyricist. He typically composed his lyrics in a notebook, independently of the eventual music to evolve. The music itself was largely written by Sumner and Hook as the group

783:" he was disappointed that the abrasiveness had been toned down. He wrote; "I was like, head in hands, 'Oh fucking hell, it's happening again ... Martin had fucking melted the guitar with his 503:'s "Keep on Keepin' On" at a Manchester recording studio. The band spent late March and April 1978 writing and rehearsing material. During the Stiff/Chiswick Challenge concert at Manchester's 1234:

argues that Joy Division "became the first band in the post-punk movement by ... emphasizing not anger and energy but mood and expression, pointing ahead to the rise of melancholy

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member on the cover—coupled with the nature of the band's name fuelled speculation about their political affiliations. While Hook and Sumner later said they were intrigued by

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at the time, Morris believed that the group's dalliance with Nazi imagery came from a desire to keep memories of the sacrifices of their parents and grandparents during

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on stage. He died by suicide on the eve of what would have been the band's first North American tour in May 1980, aged 23. Joy Division's second and final album,

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during rehearsals. Curtis's imagery and word choice often referenced "coldness, pressure, darkness, crisis, failure, collapse, loss of control". In 1979,

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as keyboardist and second guitarist. Gilbert had befriended the band and played guitar at a Joy Division performance when Curtis had been unable to play.

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have both been credited with suggesting the band name "Stiff Kittens", but the band settled on "Warsaw" shortly before their first gig, a reference to

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Curtis was unwilling to explain the meaning behind his lyrics and Joy Division releases were absent of any lyric sheets. He told the fanzine

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noted that Hannett's role was "crucial". There are "devices of distance" in his production and "the sound is an illusion of physicality".

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Despite their short career, Joy Division have exerted a wide-reaching influence and achieved widespread critical acclaim. John Bush of

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increasingly worried about Curtis's condition. On 7 April 1980, Curtis attempted suicide by overdosing on his anti-seizure medication,

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played mostly toms" and "the sound of cymbals was forbidden". Hook said that "Siouxsie and the Banshees were one of our big influences

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Factory Records did not have record contracts, so Joy Division (and later New Order) were never actually signed to the label.

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Joy Division performed on Granada TV again on 20 July 1979, and made their only nationwide TV appearance on 15 September on

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and carry him off to the dressing room where he'd cry his eyes out because this appalling thing had just happened to him."

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bizarre way and that to us was interesting, because no one else would play like Ian". During the recording sessions for

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described the album as an "opaque manifesto" and declared it "one of the best, white, English, debut LPs of the year".

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and was hospitalised. Meanwhile, Joy Division's career progressed, and Curtis appeared on the 13 January 1979 cover of

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after the Joy Division song, whose title was partially inspired by the 1970 J. G. Ballard collection of

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influences. In 2023, both Joy Division and New Order were nominated as one act for induction into the

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albums, was a "music looking at the future". Morris cited the "unique style" of Velvet Underground's

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sympathies merely provoked the band "to keep on doing it, because that's the kind of people we are".

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In August 1977, Warsaw placed an advertisement in a music shop window seeking a replacement drummer.

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Between July and October 1980, the remaining members, with the addition of keyboardist and guitarist

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wrote, "The themes of Joy Division's music are sorrowful, painful and sometimes deeply sad."

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Record Play Pause: Confessions of a Post-Punk Percussionist: The Joy Division Years Volume I

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Four Manchester bands we owe to the Sex Pistols' Lesser Free Trade Hall gig 40 years ago

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is as magnificent a memorial (for 'Joy Division' as much as for Ian Curtis) as any post-

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Palmer, Robert (August 1988). "The Substance of Joy Division: A Talk with New Order".

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had its international premiere on the opening night of Director's Fortnight at the

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were "obvious influences" to Curtis, and Morris also remembered the singer reading

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The evening before the band were due to depart for America, Curtis returned to his

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Bono on Joy Division, 1980, Irish radio. U2 singer speaking about the band on RTE

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It would be Siouxsie and the Banshees to whom I most felt some kind of affinity.

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Joy Division made their recorded debut in June 1978 when the band self-released

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concert. While Joy Division's first recordings were heavily influenced by early

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Morley, Paul (31 March 1979). "Modern Life in the UK: Factory Gets it Right".

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review of the EP, Paul Morley praised the band as "the missing link" between

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Punk Diary: The Ultimate Trainspotter's Guide to Underground Rock 1970–1982

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On 20 September 1978, Joy Division made their television debut performing "

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18 July 1977, Warsaw recorded five demo tracks at Pennine Sound Studios,

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Lester, Paul (November 2007). "Torn Apart: The Legend of Joy Division".

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Joy Division have influenced many bands, including their contemporaries

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through the PA before they went on stage, "to get a momentum". Bowie's "

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Curtis struggled with personal problems, including a failing marriage,

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Sumner wrote that Curtis was inspired by artists such as the Doors,

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Various Joy Division outtakes and live material have been released.

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Woodard, Josef (November 1987). "Out from the Shadows: New Order".

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club on 14 April, they caught the attention of TV music presenter

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in 1976. The group consisted of vocalist, guitarist and lyricist

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Hannett's production has been widely praised. However, as with

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Murrary, Charles Shaar (19 July 1980). "Closer to the Edge".

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compilation in 1988, including several out-of-print singles.

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drew the attention of the Manchester television personality

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Sumner and Hook formed the band after attending a June 1976

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Cook, Richard (24 December 1983). "Cries & Whispers".

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Other acts that cite Joy Division as an influence include

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So This is Permanence: Joy Division Lyrics and Notebooks

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genre and movement. Their self-released 1978 debut EP

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Touching from a Distance: Ian Curtis and Joy Division

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Savage, Jon (14 June 1980). "From Safety to Where?".

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This article is about the band. For other uses, see

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"Joy Division". 2397: 3808:An Ideal for Living: A History of Joy Division 2820: 2724:"It Felt Like Someone Had Ripped Out My Heart" 2473:"Joy Division cancelled US / Canada tour 1980" 1568:"2023 Nominees | Rock & Roll Hall of Fame" 852:was released, and peaked at number six on the 4052: 3883:Rip It Up and Start Again: Postpunk 1978–1984 2808: 2406: 2141: 1266:, is a biography of Ian Curtis (portrayed by 4423:A Means to an End: The Music of Joy Division 3257:"Tony Wilson: It Was the Best Party... Ever" 1513:The Music Lover's Guide to Record Collecting 754:", one of the last songs written by Curtis. 3273: 3254: 3073:"Playlist – Peter Hook's "Field recordings" 2973: 1627: 1625: 1623: 1621: 1619: 1617: 1615: 1613: 1611: 1384:– bass, backing and occasional lead vocals 1218:. His musical horizon went up a notch with 306:, who signed them to his independent label 4059: 4045: 4029: 4014: 3602:"What pop music tells us about JG Ballard" 3405: 2804: 2802: 2331: 2329: 537:Short Circuit: Live at the Electric Circus 345:" became their highest-charting releases. 38: 3454:"Would you walk 500 miles for this band?" 2969: 2967: 2717: 2715: 2713: 2213: 1650: 1648: 3876: 3333: 3242: 3230: 2781: 2769: 2704: 2677: 2535: 2499: 2308: 1886: 1608: 1534: 1532: 1515:. Hal Leonard Corporation. p. 191. 1510: 3805: 3629:"More Names Join UK Music Hall of Fame" 3599: 3542: 3531:Joy Division was a big influence on us. 3339:"Music to Brood By, Desolate and Stark" 3133: 3131: 2940: 2938: 2872: 2799: 2617: 2574: 2335: 2326: 2090: 2088: 2018: 1946: 1910: 1898: 1756: 1655:Barrett, Christopher (25 August 2007). 1654: 4502:Musical groups from Greater Manchester 4444: 3930: 3904: 3784:Unknown Pleasures. 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