User talk:VeryVerily

2674: 2583: 68: 2506:, and its associated enforcement, are vacated with respect to VeryVerily. However, the other still applicable remedy, namely that pertaining to discussion of reverts, and its associated enforcement, remain in force. Ruy Lopez is banned from using sockpuppets, and is placed on probation. VeryVerily may appeal to have the remaining remedy lifted in four months. The remedies will be enforced by block. For further details, please see the arbitration case. On behalf of the arbitration committee, 2911: 2838: 3121: 21: 1587:

he introduces and reintroduces. It is a clear fact that the Safaviyeh Sufis and early Safavid rulers drew on the support of AZERIS and ANATOLIAN Turks to establish military forces. Initially Azeri (a Turkic idiom) was the official Language at the Safavid court, as numerous contemporary documents prove. WIKIPEDIA cannot afford erratic "editors" like Mani, who simply waists serious peoples time and contributes to misinformation. --

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way. If a user believes that a later version is more complete, or more accurate, he could ask the previous certifier, or another "qualified" user to add the certification. After making a certain number of edits, new users could automatically become candidates for "qualification", through some sort of voting by previously qualified users.

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overly restrictive: I would admit anyone who can write competently in English on any subject, and who shows a reasonable willingness to abide by agreed rules and conventions. I expect this would result in the exclusion of only a few percent of current editors - but those few editors cause 90% of the current problems.

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Again, I don't know what you consider "proof", but you're not getting a statement signed by Ruy Lopez written in blood witnessed by the Pope. I could start listing the telltale signs and other bits of evidence, but the real proof is the overall pattern which I know well. From others' comments (Adam

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When someone asks for evidence, it does not help to point a 41 kilobyte RFC that mentions Ruy Lopez exactly once (at the very top, to say the match is "not 100%" and then never again goes on to mention him) and Maximus's evidence, which never even mentions his name. Based on your non-evidence, I will

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I find that your characterization of my involvement in your mediation/arbitration issues of last year are largely accurate. I am available to make comments as necessary in your appeal should you or the AC require my involvement, although I imagine that what I wrote at the time would be more relevant.

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Please help in keeping "Mani" from indiscriminately amending Articles. He obviously lacks knowledge and maturity to be left acting on his own. Out of ignorance and unreflected "PERSIANISM" he makes assertions totally out of touch with reality. Please look at the SAFAVIDS article and the "corrections"

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article. I have to in truth admit the the box is merely an adaptation of another-I don't really know how to make one from scratch so I also had no idea how to fit it on the page. But I don't see why you think it's ugly, it's the same color as all the others, the economy article just happens to have

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Cool. Once its resolved in the draft let me put it back so it doesn't get reverted immediately (or give it 24 hours and then do it in case something happens and I forget). Also, I'd like to remove the section "Review of edit history of this article" on the talk page, but I'll also lose your comments.

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Since I was harsh myself, I'm not going to complain about whether you were too. My "lashing out" was a combination of my opinion on whether Eequor would make a good admin and my distaste for the whole TINC debate. I agree that Eequor handled the situation well, although she also knew well enough what

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In practice I think the first of these suggestions would be impossible to achieve, since the process fetishists will never allow the "free Wiki" aspect of Knowledge to be diluted. The compromise solution would be to have the closed community of editors as a subset of all editors, whose function would

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I have no problem with that, but I don't think the ArbCom is even a small part of Knowledge's problems. I am thinking of writing a "Wikpedian Manifesto" setting out my views of a reform agenda - do you know if anyone else is working on such a thing? Also, do you know anything about "Knowledge 1.0" or

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The result of a checkuser request on Lopez was inconclusive, but this should not be surprising, considering the ramifications of a positive verification combined with editing from a dynamic IP. Lopez is suspected to have edited using many accounts, and here is some of the evidence I brought forth in

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The solution to this would be (ideally) to make Knowledge a closed community of editors, who are known to each other by their real names, who have password-access to the articles, and who have been admitted to editorship by the community after a period of apprenticeship and probation. I would not be

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Hey, I reverted the article back to my edit but I'm not trying to start an edit war here. I think there is criticism to be made of the PIPA study, and I'm looking for some un-biased counter. As the article stands right now, I think the caveat at the beginning of the section will do (for now) while

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The article says "The Basque language is unusual in that it does not appear to be related to any known languages." Why do you insist in inserting "living"? Basque does not appear to be related to any known languages, period. It is of course true, that if we go back two or three thousand years, there

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I agree with you about the complexity of Knowledge society. As for my position in this complex system, it is whatever it is, but I'm sure enough about my own motivations to know that I didn't feel personally implicated or threatened by Eequor's comments. I'm not a developer, after all. Also, rather

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Rather than trying to restrict new users until they have proven themselves, I would perhaps favour a system whereby certain "qualified" users can certify a page as being correct, and complete. Users could then select either the latest version, or an earlier version which has been certified in some

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Secondly I would create a hierarchy of articles, which I think you also suggest. After a period of "open editing" (the length of which would depend on the complexity of the topic), an article would be declared to be "finished," and thereafter could only be edited by leave of a supervisory committee

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If you're curious: I first became active during the Quickpoll saga. I grew interested in the administrative workings -- but I saw that people tended to vandalize each other's pet articles, so I decided it would be wise to maintain separate accounts for contributing versus talking. The community has

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Lodar, VeryVerily. Good suggestion on not yanking paragraphs out of an already contentious article without first going to the Talk page. By the way, I had already seen that the passage had been deleted, so I could figure out what your comment meant. Other people may be puzzled, however. Good luck,

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Heya, VV. Sorry for the slow response: "real life" has been holding me prisoner lately, but I managed to get it drunk and escape. A few other people mentioned made this point, and I think that it was one of the best arguments in favor of keeping the old name. Oh, well, though: what's done is done,

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status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, then a link to the website from which it was taken, together with a restatement of that website's terms of use of its content, is usually sufficient

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Point taken - I understand completely. If you're still interested in working on stuff though, it might be worth appealing the decision, as there's a very different arbcom these days, and Gzornenplatz and Shorne are long gone - there doesn't seem to be so many extreme leftist warriors around these

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The Arbitration Committee elections are almost here. I humbly ask for your vote in this election cycle. I have been a user of Knowledge for over a year. I was here before the Community Portal, categories, or {{stub}}. I know how Knowledge operates, and I am prepared to do my part to deal with

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which aims to get users to release all of their contributions to the U.S. state, county, and city articles (if any) under the CC-by-sa 1.0 and 2.0 license (at minimum) or into the public domain if they prefer. A secondary, but equally important, goal is to get those users to release ALL of their

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Knowledge is an open encyclopedia that anyone can edit. This is why Knowledge has become so large so fast. Tinkering with that freedom to edit may possibly do more harm than the small number (in percentage terms) or rogue edits. Most rubbish edits are reverted fairly quickly. Edit wars can be

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I support your policy changes. Knowledge should try to keep its great editors, such as Adam, whose contributions should be protected against deluded cultist, ignorant newbies and other incompetent editors. I am not a great editor but I am not incompetent either. NPOV policy should mention that

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It's a "feature" of the new MediaWiki software. If an edit is identical to what's there, it quietly vanishes, edit summary and all, without telling the user. It's extremely annoying, especially if one is putting relevant information into the edit summary. To thwart it, I often add a space or

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Ah, sorry, I missed that somehow. As for wishing the best, I wish wikipedia the best, and I wish you wouldn't revert-war so often. When I posted on your talk page before, I didn't realize the 3 Revert Rule was a "guideline" rather than an official rule. What brought this to my attention now (of

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Thanks for fixing the double message. I had some problems with my Internet connection and that's why I posted the message two times (having received no response from the server) and then I wasn't able to fix it myself. Hopefully, I will find some time to contribute to Knowledge articles on

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It's a bit late to bring this up, but I must say that I'm coming around to a different point of view on this name issue. Having an admin named Troll seems almost defiant to the real trolls, as though they bother us so little we're happy to use the name. Well, just a very belated thought.

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I think it's time a group of editors made a direct approach to Mr Wales and whoever else is in charge here, telling them that unless they make a definite decision to support legitimate editors against this handful of LaRoucheite and Stalinist wreckers, in other words to agree to defend the

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Well I am glad that someone else is thinking about these issues, but yes, I do have in mind more "foundational" changes. My views are based on what an encyclopaedia is, or should be: accurate, comprehensive, reliable and stable. The reputation of the Britannica (for example) rests on its

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But again, I know his patterns through extensive experience and I know what I'm talking about. You may just take me at my word on this. But by saying you "presume" I'm guessing, you're basically calling me a liar. Ironic for someone who just falsely portrayed the "not 100%" comment.

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we find something else. This isn't a left/right thing so I'm not going to get into that. I just feel that it is the difference between PIPA (who I will agree has a bias, but a small one) and Ann Coulter who has a right-wing opinion on every issue under the sun. Thanks, --

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Hi - I made a list of users who've been around long enough to have made lots of edits but aren't admins. It looks like you're not active anymore, but if you come back and are at all interested in becoming an admin, can you please add an '*' immediately before your name in

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contributors should not rely on a single, non-scientific, non-scholarly, non-mainstream source but instead rely on as many independent sources as possible. Such a neutral formulation of NPOV policy will help to fight the cultists in a non-insulting, non-stigmatizing way.

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Hey, I made a small spelling fix on your Licensing page, then kept reading down the page where you said not to make any changes to your signed content, even for spelling. That page wasn't signed, but just thought I'd drop you a note to let you know what I did. -

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for accuracy. People cite its articles without checking its sources because they have confidence in its writers and editors. No-one in their right mind would cite Knowledge as a source for anything, because its articles are unstable and have no quality control.

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The major weaknesses show up in areas which both are contentious and require specialized knowledge. (By contrast, many of our chemistry and mathematics articles are quite accurate.) There is simply no way under the current model such articles can be

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Let me know if there's anything I can do to help with your appeal, but from a brief glance it certainly looks to me like you were being victimised, and I hope that even at this late stage the persicutors will still receive some sort of punishment.

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than preserve any particular position, I would prefer to keep an egalitarian ethic within the system, so that my conduct and arguments (as well as those of others) can be considered on their own merits and not skewed by some idea of social rank. --

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So how did your girlfriend Eequor's second RFA go? Oops, looks like she didn't make it. It looks like you coming out of hiding to support her was the real kiss of death. Red Fraction had to swing into action after seeing that. So so sorry.

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I should note that Jimbo, who controls Knowledge's capital of servers, is a fan of the far right Ayn Rand. The right-wingers base what they want to do on authority - the authority of adminships, where they can ban users and so forth and so

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affirmed this practice on numerous occasions, so I feel I'm on solid ground -- and I use my real name and valid email for voting and controversial discussions, so I daresay I've got a better claim to legitimacy than certain other users.

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Don't worry about it: I'm not. I know better than to take things like that personally. One of the things I learned in life is to enjoy things while you have them, and let them go when you don't. Things change, and that's a good thing.

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Sorry for chosing wrong place for posting greetings, yesterday! Saw your great job on numerous subjects. I shall take the liberty to come back to you for assistance, as you obviously seem to have experience and clout. Pantherarosa.

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Perhaps the best bet in this regard is a sort of encyclopedia on top of Knowledge, where there's a "pipeline" where reviewers can look at a Knowledge article and its page history and develop a "super-version" which is certified as

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problematic accounts. I wish to cut out the bureaucracy that makes our website stagnate. We need solutions to our problems now. If you want an arbitrator who believes in action, frankness, honesty, and fairness in every case,

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It is my opinion that this evidence as well as all the results from the checkuser request make it very likely that Lopez has edited under all of these names an most likely all the names has been accused of using a sockpuppets.

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be to select articles from the general Knowledge and create a "superpedia" of finished articles sitting on top of Wikpedia. The disadvantage of this would be there would then be two versions of the same article in existence.

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I'd like to remove it because I feel it wasn't constructive and was fairly argumentative of me (I was feeling especially defensive at the time). Would you be opposed to me blanking it, or would you like me to remove it? -

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If that happens I will, with considerable regret, withdraw from Knowledge altogether. An encyclopaedia that can't or won't defend itself against Stalinist and LaRouche wreckers will never succeed and doesn't deserve to.

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I think you got outsmarted - reverting has never been a winning strategy, and by getting people focussed on that, you missed the chance to get Shorne booted for the vitriol he spews at everybody who disagrees with him.

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Hey - I just noticed your vote on Eequor's RfA. It's nice to see you round again. I see you're still on a bit of a hiatus, but it'd be great to see some contributions again - you were a really good editor in your day.

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may be languages to which Basque would then seem to be related, but we don't have any remains of such languages and hence "living" is unnecessary, as Basque does not appear to be related to any dead languages either.

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You did some kind of edit to the Subud article (in the section the down side of Subud) and now instead of being numbered 1 through 6 (or whatever) all the numbers are "1". This doesn't make sense to me. Why is it?

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I really was upset when I saw that some pig had changed your obvious hard worked on article to some horrible garbage that he put. The article in question is Holodimir, or Collectivization in the USSR and the like.

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guideline proposal to reflect that the Arbitration Committee has deemed this to be a bannable offense. I'm trying to get community input to help develop this article. If you have a moment please drop by

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within Knowledge, with the declared aim of winning majority support for the policy described above, and conducting a campaign among Wikipedians to that end. There is also the possibility of forming a

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As I said, I won't dignify the personal attacks on RfA, because they're irrelevant to the merits of the nomination. But thanks again for stepping to my defense. I noticed it, and I do appreciate it.

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Hi someone tagged this image as no source it was going to be deleted so I tagged it as fairuseunsure, can you tell me where you found the image then I'll add the source to the image page.. Thanks

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In your appeal, you state that LanceMurdoch, HectorRodriguez, Richardchilton, Halifax, and Hanpuk are all sockpuppets of Ruy Lopez. Are you simply guessing, or do you have evidence linking them?

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If you could answer my questions I've inlined in the lead section of the draft, then I will not oppose you putting your lead section back (even if I still think it's too long). Sound fair? -

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I suspect we'll be writing up a proposed decision for your appeal soon, so you you might want to make yourself available if we (or any of our clerks) should happen to ask any questions here

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Your opinions on whether the article meets inclusion criteria and what should be done with the article are welcome; please participate in the discussion(s) by adding your comments to

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The real issue seems to be, how to persuade Mr Wales that something needs to be done urgently, before (as Sanger suggests) someone else does it for him by starting a new project.

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poll. I am curious to know, if the consensus is (as it currently appears to be) that the 3RR should be enforced, will you change your editing practices and try to abide by it?

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I did somewhat misunderstand your question I suppose, in that I thought you were asking for evidence of the sockpuppet army as a whole rather than one username's membership.

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If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their source and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following

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of some kind. This would enable us to build up a stable corpus of reliably accurate articles which did not change every day, which outside readers could rely on and cite.

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completely from writing anything at all about micronations on the basis that as the founder of one, anything I write is somehow self-promotional and/or controversial. --

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I was trying to do it without erasing the intermediate edits, but the problem was too large to correct as quickly as needed, so I reverted myself. This MediaWiki bug

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wasn't enough (and frankly, that very article is far from ready with respect to factual content and NPOV, imho), or if you would like more praise, take a look at:

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Or perhaps Knowledge is owned and controlled by a wealthy capitalist, Jimbo, and he and his little cabal see Mr. Poor as their brethren and invited him into ranks

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I know of what I speak. I can only guess what you would consider "proof" - a notarized document signed by Richardchilton? I laid out a good deal of evidence at

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We could, but I don't see the point. It's just an offhand reference in a list of non-IE languages in Europe, a bit of a tangent. Deeper details belong in the

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Good to see you back, and good luck with the appeal. I didn't really follow the original case, but the judgement looked clearly disproportionate to me. ---

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I wanted to compliment you on your civility, something which should be standard on the wiki, but in practice is rare enough to earn my compliments. Cheers,

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I'm looking at this name change as an excuse to get the community involved in something fun, something outside the normal edit routine. So, one thing you

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to delete is reached. If you agree with the deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please add

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to delete is reached. If you agree with the deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please add

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I would like to express our (collective) great gratitude to all Wikipedians who correct grammatical errors and unidiomatic expressions from pages where

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Here is a barnstar for your exceptionally cool and logical appeal to the ArbCom. I feel it is kind of superfluous, but you deserve some sort of award.

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User has been accused of using multiple sockpuppets to abuse other editors, and wage endless RV wars on other articles. Probable sockpuppets include

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Thank you for following up. Mani-1 has not reverted the subject data, since. Let us see. All the best in your spiritual warfare, on this platform! --

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Thanks for your message. I am preparing a major case on this matter and would welcome support from any interested editors. I will keep you posted.

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I certainly like the open model, and it's hard to deny that it has had extremely impressive results, generating a giant encyclopedia in short time.

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When/if you get back, if you are not too buzy, would you mind updating my contrib image for me :) (If you don't remember what it is, go to

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You are more than welcome to quote me in any way you like. Let me know if I can be of assistance. Any enemy of Lopez is a friend of mine.

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You might want to look at Larry Sanger (major initiator of Knowledge)'s recent piece "A personal statement about Knowledge's reliability (

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Thank you for the kind words on RfA. I'm not going to dignify the attacks with a response, but I appreciate that you stepped up to speak.

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Bravo verily, Verily Verily, for your very worthwhile IMHO recent addition to the Genocide page. Puts a lot of controversies in context.

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Even though you edited it out, it doesn't make you any less of an asshole. You're an asshole whether it says so here or not. Asshole.

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Hi. I was wondering if, as someone who has previously contributed to related discussions, you might be interested in taking a look at

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information. However, if the copyright holder is different from the website's publisher, their copyright should also be acknowledged.

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information. However, if the copyright holder is different from the website's publisher, their copyright should also be acknowledged.

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articles in the past I thought you might be interested to note that the rabid deletionist lobby is on the march against them again.

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I'm not astounded, but I choose to engage the issues on the level of content. And in this case, he seems to be reverting me, too. --

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those on the geographic articles) so that we can keep most of the articles available under the multi-license. Many users use the

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I think with a closed community of editors many areas (such as musical bands or old TV shows) would simply not get much coverage.

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I don't mind the grammar fix, as a matter of fact I encourge you to fix my grammar because I have a habit of typing fast. Thanks

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I agree. I don't doubt that in large areas Knowledge is doing fine. In my areas of interest - history and politics - it is not.

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who runs Knowledge? The answer is the millionaire Ayn Rand devotee Jimbo Wales, and to a lesser extent his various lieutenants

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You are obviously correct, the math section in my brain is currently undergoing maintenance ;) -- ] 10:16, Oct 21, 2004 (UTC)

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VV, please feel free to start editing again without restriction. I will be happy to help out if you get into any disputes.

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intellectual integrity of Knowledge, they (we) will leave Knowledge, encourage others to do so, and tell the world why.

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describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to

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I too reverted back. i got no edit conflict, the edit went through just fine, yet it's not in the page history. Wierd.

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Hello, VeryVerily, since you have made several edits to articles about Chile, you may be interested in looking at the

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I've just been reading the intirguing list of Knowledge philosophies on your user pages. Part-way through it you say:

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Thanks for reverting the vandalism to my user page. I didn't even notice until just now, when I checked the history.

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Phil and I are close. Please unlock it. I haev placed an uulock request already, but if you can do it, please do it.

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Sorry about not responding to your January 7 email, I haven't been doing a good job of keeping up with it lately. --

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Good point - I was unaware of that. Perhaps then you should include a short reference to Aquitanian in the sentence?

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Since withdrawing from all non-Australian topics I haven't been following the Shorne saga. What has been going on?

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Thanks a lot, I know how you feel as I have not been on here since April and before that December. Good Luck. —

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article based on topics we have went over there and other places before. I've run out of reverts for the day. --

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and make any applicable changes to the article or post any suggestions you may have on the talk page. Thanks!

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It takes a base state of mind to misuse this eminent forum for base and uncouth statements, such as the above

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to pick up on other topics that need attention, or to express needs which you perceive pertaining to Chile.

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Hey, there was a recent change in the Mediawiki software that broke a lot of signtures. You may want to see

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Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain (which many people do or don't like to do, see

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I'll double-check. Do you want the page unprotected? I think it's been reverted too much, 3RR or no...

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VV, I'm in my own little drama right now and I'd rather not step into the middle of another one. Sorry.

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I agree, or I wouldn't have got involved in the first place, or devoted so much time to Knowledge since.

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against multiple users, and prior acts of sockpuppets could support an unacceptable pattern of behavior.

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I reserve the right to post replies on this page instead of your user talk page, although I often don't.

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No prob. I was wondering what was up, and you beat me to reverting back (with a curt "myob" summary).

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to state, but I do it anyways — and that of Finns belong to the worst. Thank you! Thank you very much!

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Please keep the "editing dispute" tag until a resolution can be reached on the article`s Talk page. --

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something to the edit so that in case of an edit conflict I'll either be told or it will go through.

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notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on

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notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on

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Carr, PMA), I'm sure I'm not the only one, but here I offer my own expert testimony as evidence.

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needs to get fixed (the problem comes from edit conflict merging and section edits, I believe).

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I think it's a wonderful idea, and I would like to support you in making it official policy. --

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Apologies for the revert - for some reason I misread which page I was reverting. Regards --

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I appreciate you notifying me of the Appeal and that you were summarizing my involvement. --

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I saw you deleted our recent discussion here about the 3RR, with an edit summary that said "

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If you have the time, would you mind updating my contribbyhour graph that you made for me?

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I later strike out when more edits by "Ruy Lopez" come in and it becomes clear who he is

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I agree to ] all my contributions to any ], county, or city article as described below:

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An editor has nominated one or more articles which you have created or worked on, for

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I think that's more or less what I proposed. The question is who does the certifying?

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Would you mind if I added this to my quotes page? It's been making me giggle all day.

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template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate.

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My bad. That actually explains why I've made some questionable calls in the past.

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I've added a FAQ question dealing with the difference between versions 1.0 and 2.0.

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Such statements are compulsorily considered as self-reflective, if anything at all.

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no it's not, and the succeeding sentences lay out the position in a neutral manner

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has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at

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has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at

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to expect when she agreed to be nominated. Anyway, I dislike the use of the word

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While all constructive contributions to Knowledge are appreciated, pages may be

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You locked two identical pages. The second page should be the latest version by

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I, for one, appreciate your effort on the attacks on humanitarian workers page!

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This arbitration case has closed. The one-revert per page per day remedy from

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was deleted though) and his own confessions are linked to from the RfC page).

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Lopez’s thoughts on who owns and runs Knowledge are very similar to those of

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Thank you so much for the change on the Life in the United States box in the

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Please Help curtailing erratic and unreflected "editing" by certain pundits

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Thanks, I did not dare doing that with the GWB National Guard accusations.

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Dear user VeryVerily, as I have seen an edition of yours at the article

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be re-evaluated as a solution to short term disputes between users.

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I suppose you were referring to GRAHAMUK's change when you commented

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For future reference you might also want to note the articles in the

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article, which the reader seeking further information can click on.

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http://people.cohums.ohio-state.edu/sanger3/wikipedia_statement.htm

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User:Tuomas#Articles_in_need_of_a_check_by_a_native_English_speaker

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is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Knowledge

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in this setting for the same reasons that I dislike the word

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An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened:

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That is very good news. Glad to see you are still with us.

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I support your policy changes, thanks, You are the greatest

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and go to the link w/ the graphs at the bottom). Thanks.

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Hi. You just removed the <br style="clear:both" /: -->

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both his recent RfArb as well as the check user request.

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At least we are still fighting him and his sockpuppets.

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whatever it's called? Why has this idea not progressed?

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process can result in deletion without discussion, and

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Please consider addressing the issues raised. Removing

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the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page

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I like your latest wording best. I hope Meelar agrees.

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word at March 11, ...Madrid. I was getting very angry.

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and at least I got to have a fun contest, right? :)

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File source problem with File:SamuelPrescottBush.jpg

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Anti-authorism (I'd like a punchier name for this.)

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Please end the edit war with Shorne on "South Korea"

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