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Japanese standard of family name first, mainly because Del Rey makes it a point that they are using that style (generally due to certain puns within the manga such as Yoshidayama's mishap with "Harima Kenji/Harry Makenzie" in volume 1). As well, while this article needs refs everywhere (many could be taken from the manga) is there any reference for the "named after" for the characters? As to the animals, none of them are important enough to warrant their own section. They should be merged with the owner(if noteworthy such as Iori, Pyotr, Napoleon) or deleted. The same should be done with the incidental class characters. We don't need to know every single person in each class, just the ones that take storyline roles, otherwise they would be simply
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So who do we have on the polygon not established yet? I know Shuuji Harima, Mio
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Well, the problem is notability. Making this a list of EVERY character in the manga/anime makes it far too long and detracts from the navigability of the article. Even characters like Madoka and Shigeo, yeah they are noted as the "first couple" of the manga, but they still aren't notable enough to
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I agree and I see a few more things that need to be addressed. Are we going off the manga for this or the anime? Honestly I think the Anime is more responsible for this being known in the US, but the manga is the original work. If we are indeed going with the manga we need to revert all the names
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The distinction made here between "main characters" and "supporting characters" made on this page seems arbitrary, especially since these "main characters" get about the same (if not less) plot attention than some of the "supporting characters". It's probably more efficient to stick to the breakdown
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I agree with the animals. They could be merged or deleted. Only those 3 you memntioned are in any way at all notable. For minor characters we need to define who is what. FE: I listed above that Harima and Tenma would be the main characters, imo, but it could be argued that
Kurasama and Yakumo would
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It's more of an issue of writing up the relationships (not necessarily just romantic) between characters. Each character page has a subsection for relationships, but the information on any given relationship will necessarily be common to both characters involved. It would be nice if we could set up
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There's also the issue of bias. If you decide to divide characters up based on their "importance", then the system of categorization will vary based on who is writing the classification. How will a reader know whether this article deems
Imadori and/or Hanai to be "important enough" to be classified
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and are not specifically pointed out in the series (i.e. Imadori/Lala? His proclivaties for chest size don't necessarily mean he likes Lala) Anything else should be mentioned in prose within the character biographies, making the chart superfluous anyway, except as a means to confuse the readers of
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I merged these into the relevant character articles or entries and the intro section into this article's lead. It makes more sense to see that info there vs. at the end of this article, at which point the reader may be confused as to who is referred to. I also pulled this out, as it's trivia and
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Incidently, while a number of the 2-C cast members only recieve a formal introduction in the second season of the anime, all of them make appearances well before that (it's even possible to construct a class seating plan of 2-C in Season 1), and a number of them have speaking roles, personalities,
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I think that we need to pick a single system of classification and stick by it. Aside from Yakumo, who is double listed under "Supporting
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The relationship chart is different issue, but it's not one that we can presently solve, given that the relationships are constantly changing (the Sara-Asou-Mikoto-Hanai part of the web is one section that is very time dependant, for example). There are two official relationship charts that were
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You could also go with order of appearance, if you feel that it's more appropriate for a television show. Either way, this plan seems sensible. I think that the next problem to tackle will be in finding a system with which to detail the relationships between all these characters. That's bound to
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The thing with that though is that a character like Yakumo (who seems to be the only one affected) gets buried in the listing beneath a couple dozen Class 2-C students who are minor, most of whom aren't even really shown until Second Term. It would also place the other 2-C characters except for
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Karasuma. However, she is generally grouped with Akira and Mikoto(easily secondary characters), even though she is given more main story time. That is a debatable topic for now, but aside from that I think everyone else could be moved down to secondary or other.
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the overall plot of the story that they should go here. The Goutou brothers, Ryuu Nenji, Masaru, even Saeko and Kozue, all of them are far too minor to be in this list. Even with the reordering and deleting of animals and such, the article is WAY too long.
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The last five or so characters are unsorted, but the information about their names is more trivia than anything else. It's probably better to move them off the list and mention their names somewhere else (such as a team list for the survival arc).
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characters when they're added in under the "first" field, so I went with that format. This should also make it easier for the reader to find characters, and cross-reference them with those manga chapters themselves when that list is created.
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I don't know how to type it either, I just cut'n'pasted from the article. ;) And I didn't know about the serialization until I read it, my original thoughts were actually akin to yours (as can be seen in some of the earlier revisions of the
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The article says there's only 2C and 2D, but it's been shown several times that it goes from 2a to 2F. I'm going to correct it to say that 2C and D are just the main classes focussed on. If anybody disagrees, please explain why here.
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Eri...not sure. I don't know how many of them center on her as the main character. Questions about Eri aside, who would be secondary? Who would be other? And who, beyond the animals, would be better mentioned in chapter/episode
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Well, as has been said before, this chart doesn't really belong in the article. As well, it is difficult to quantify the relationships as a whole through the series. I'd say it's probably time to do away with the chart.
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the page layout to take advantage of this fact. There's probably enough information on some of these to make separate pages for them, but I'm not sure if that's the best course of action to take.
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anyone know what kinda sunglasses harima wears? they appear to be a silver oval design.. but was just wondering if anyone had anyother info. google seems to be drawing a blank...
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