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P.S. The Vecchie article you found is actually quite good, and a summary would be good in this page. (That, by the way, is what Knowledge does, take information from various sources and present it in a coherent form.) I might even make time to do that but not if you are just going to revert any
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Good news: There were already issues with the article when you found it. Rather than add a clean-up banner, I've edited down cruft that can be found immediately on the cited pages, so that the page provides a more useful summary for a layperson. There remains an issue with missing citations in the
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If you still think the full section should be included despite this clear policy, we can discuss the fact that it's a barely-rephrased version of copyrighted content from the first cited article. In fact, now that I look closer, the first citation is to a click-baity article on Time.com, while the
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So, I have reworded it not to include any hint of instruction manual. Do-it-yourself hostage negotiation had not occurred to me to be an interpretation any more than an article on the brain being a do-it-yourself-brain-surgery instruction. But otherwise a basic summary of what this model is
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Whoops, forgot to mention: Since I've outlined Knowledge policy above and demonstrated that this content does not belong in the article, I'm reverting to the version in which this technique is listed, with citations, in a manner that matches the tone of the article and of Knowledge in
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I think it is fairly obvious that an article on Crisis Negotiation should document the types of techniques used. I am not wedded to the stairway model, and there may be others more worthy of description. But deleting it without comment is not
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However, I wish you wouldn't mix compliments with sarcasm :( It's not necessary. I'm sorry that life on the internet has made you feel like you need to do that, and if anything I said above inadvertently contributed to it.
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Hey there, Tuntable! Thanks so much for contributing. I saw that you included a section on 'how to' negotiate under a certain method, and thought it might be better as a sentence under Techniques (now History) per
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Your reference is obviously much better than the one that I had found and is also consistent. It would be great if you could us it to improve the base article, I have just taken the stairway model.
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You're correct that the page should list notable techniques, but it need not describe them in detail, and it especially need not provide instruction on how to use them. If someone wants to learn
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If you get a chance, I've been hoping someone will scare up a citation for the three bullet points in the intro, or else rephrase them to be simpler.
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Also, I don't appreciate your implication that I deleted the section 'without comment'. I explained the edit above, minutes after making it.
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second citation is to a for-profit website with content redundant to the first citation. How about we instead include a citation to
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I'm happy to compromise at this point, since the new section is less instructional and more exemplary.
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History section, if you'd still like to apply some elbow grease to the article.
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a car is, they come to Knowledge; if they want to learn even the basics of
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about how to use or do something is not. Such guides may be welcome at
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While Knowledge has descriptions of people, places and things, an
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the earliest notable paper I can find on the Stairway Model
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